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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:59 pm
by AndrewJamez
Hi guys, I found a good instructional tutorial about Nvidia Inspector and what all the settings mean in an understandable way.
If you have an Nvidia card and arent using Nvidia inspector because the old classic Nhancer doesnt work with the new series drivers, then this little app is your ticket to better image quality within FSX.
As far as I am concerned its an absolute must (as was Nhancer) to achieve shimmer free trees and Power lines etc and better anti Antialiasing and Anisotropic filtering quality.

Read on... http://forum.avsim.net/topic/324786-nvidia...f-all-settings/

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:17 pm
by Adamski
Well I wonder about this post:

"DX10 WARNING - AA does NOT work in FSX's DX10 preview mode, it never has. You should not run in DX10 mode basically ever - it is slower and buggy."

This is TOTAL RUBBISH. AA works just fine with DX10 preview. Neither is it any more buggy than standard DX9. Also - on my system, it's actually faster than DX9.

If he can be 100% wrong on three things in his first statement I wonder about the rest of the advice ... though I have to say nVidia Inspector itself is good.

I'd post on Avsim, but it'd start a flame war.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:36 pm
by AndrewJamez
DX10 is buggy. Yes you get a few more frames per/second but most experience more stutters than DX9. I stand buy his settings for Nvidia Inspector as I have used them alot and trust me they work wonders for you image quality. I just posted the thread beacuse his explanations of its workings are better than I could ever provide.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:19 pm
by Adamski
AndrewJamez wrote:
QUOTE (AndrewJamez @ Jul 7 2011,6:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DX10 is buggy. Yes you get a few more frames per/second but most experience more stutters than DX9. I stand buy his settings for Nvidia Inspector as I have used them alot and trust me they work wonders for you image quality. I just posted the thread beacuse his explanations of its workings are better than I could ever provide.

I think there's been a huge amount of misinformation about DX9/DX10 (I've researched a lot about it) and there's a *lot* of conflicting information.

Many of the "bugs" in DX10 aren't so much to do with graphics quality or drivers - more to do with many missing basic FSX object libraries. For instance - many default airport buildings don't have the full set (for the different times of the day). Other "bugs" are often bad conversions of aircraft or textures (usually props etc.). I do understand FSX doesn't actually "do" DX10 as such (as used in many games since) ... it's a "preview" mode - with all that it entails, but that doesn't mean it's "half-baked".

If anything, I've found DX10 preview mode actually *more* stable - and it certainly produces far better water textures etc. For some reason, it actually runs faster on my system - and I'm not the only one that gets this. As usual, your mileage may vary!

Whilst the technical info he gives is fairly useful, his implementation(s) of the various settings do seem to come in for a bit of discussion (if you read the thread right through). I still say though, that the blanket dismissal of DX10 preview mode makes me wonder whether he actually knows what he's talking about.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:14 am
by AndrewJamez
Those settings that he posted are pretty much indentical to the ones that I have seen in the older Nhancer discussion. Its obvious "he" didnt come up with them. They are pretty much rule of thumb for these type of apps if you C has the grunt for it. I find the setting that makes the biggest difference is running the Anisotropic filtering at 16x It definately creates a smooth transition between the lod's and up untill now I really had no idea what that particualr filtering did. My question for DX10 is if some default textures are not DX10 compatible then how does VLC run and object librarys like snowmans compilation?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:45 am
by AlisterC
I run that one at application controlled personally and set to ansiotropic in game. Theory at the time was that FSX knows what needs that filtering, so you can tell it to do it in game, rather than forcing via card. But, perhaps the theory has moved on from then. Still works fine for me smile.gif

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:41 pm
by AndrewJamez
Well I gave DX10 Preview a go and guess what! As per the thread I posted AA/AF does not work at all with Nvidia inspector and the setting listed. I would like to hear from anyone what there experience is with Nvidia inspector and DX10 mode because I cannot get it happening. I think its because DX10 preview does not do AA/AF any higher than 4X settings from what I have read which is why people may experience slightly higher FPS.
If anyone has a solution, please lets hear it.

I have tryed changing the antialiasing mode from App controled, App enhanced and App overide with no change. Still no Antialiasing in DX10 preview.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:53 pm
by Barrington
AndrewJamez wrote:
QUOTE (AndrewJamez @ Jul 12 2011,4:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi guys, I found a good instructional tutorial about Nvidia Inspector and what all the settings mean in an understandable way.
If you have an Nvidia card and arent using Nvidia inspector because the old classic Nhancer doesnt work with the new series drivers, then this little app is your ticket to better image quality within FSX.
As far as I am concerned its an absolute must (as was Nhancer) to achieve shimmer free trees and Power lines etc and better anti Antialiasing and Anisotropic filtering quality.

Read on... http://forum.avsim.net/topic/324786-nvidia...f-all-settings/


ohmy.gif I note your reference that 'the old classic Nhancer doesnt work with the new series drivers'. Can you advise when this happened or from what series of drivers?
If this is the case, then I (and some others) are under the illusion that all was fine when we updated drivers as long as we re-applied our settings.................
Many thanks for your input as we may have to change to Nvidia Inspector.
Cheers

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:58 pm
by AndrewJamez
Sure the nhancer programme is no longer being supported and the forums form it site have been closed. Drivers of 260.XX or higher are not compatable and many people running v270.XX drivers with nhancer fail to start FSX
Nvidia inspector is just if not easier to use with equally good results. For me, nhancer would not even install with new nvidia graphics drivers installed. Check this link out to see what I am on about.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/nhancer-se...topic36586.html