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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:41 am
by ScottyB
Hi there,

So I am still planning my upgrade to FSX (and obv. VLC wub.gif): I have found my computer I think, and now planning my addons.

Do any of you use AES? If so, how do you find it? Worth the money? Are any of our NZ airports AES compatible? Which ones?

Also, I am planning on getting FS2Crew set up properly to give me a more lifelike feel, but can it work along with FS Passengers X? Wouldn't the co-pilot/crew sounds clash with eachother?

My payware addon list at this stage is:

VLC (ofcourse!)
LevelD 767-300
Carenado 185 (bush variant)
REX 2.0
FS Passengers X
AES

smile.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:37 am
by Adamski
ScottyB wrote:
QUOTE (ScottyB @ Jul 29 2011,2:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, I am planning on getting FS2Crew set up properly to give me a more lifelike feel, but can it work along with FS Passengers X? Wouldn't the co-pilot/crew sounds clash with each other?

My payware addon list at this stage is:

VLC (ofcourse!)
LevelD 767-300
Carenado 185 (bush variant)
REX 2.0
FS Passengers X
AES

I have FS Passengers - but to be honest, the novelty wears off pretty quickly. Looks like you're still enjoying yours! I suspect the same for FS2Crew (though I only had a very early version for the ATR on my old FS9 setup).

I'd save your money and get the A2A Spit! Or wait for the new PMDG 737.

Not sure about AES. I prefer animated/AI *aircraft* instead, so opted for Ultimate Traffic2. REX is also a thumbup1.gif

The LevelD 767 is a definite YES, as is (of course) VLC. Of course, you should think about some Godzone RealNZ, if you haven't already got them all winkyy.gif ... not to mention HamiltonX etc.

You may want to look at the A2A Cub as well as the Carenado C185.

Best of luck!!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:58 am
by ScottyB
Great info there Adamski - cheers mate.

So guys my new system will be:

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4Ghz/3.8Ghz turbo core x 4 Quad Core LGA 1155 8MB Cache Super Processor.
Motherboard: Intel H61 Chipset mATX up to 16GB DDR3 Speeds Socket 1155, 4 rear USBs, PCI-E X16.
RAM: 8GB DDR3-1333 High performance Dual Channel Memory with low latencies and lifetime warranty
Graphics Card: Dedicated ATI Radeon HD5830 1GB
Hard Drive: 1TB (1000GB) 7200RPM SATA3.0 HDD
Optical: FASTEST 24X Dual Layer DVD-RW
Case/Power: 550Watt Cooler Master Elite mATX Case, Solid construction, piano black front panel. 2 Front USBs and audio ports. Thermalmaster ultra reliable power supply.
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit Full Version with Disc and Certificate.
Monitor: LATEST AOC 22" LED Full HD 2M:1 Contrast Ratio 1920*1080 Resolution Built in Speakers, USB ports, touch buttons - 3 years warranty!

Do you think that'll run FSX okay? I got upgraded to the i7 2600K (o/c model 4-4.5ghz) for free smile.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:13 am
by Charl
ScottyB wrote:
QUOTE (ScottyB @ Jul 29 2011,2:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...Do any of you use AES? If so, how do you find it? Worth the money? Are any of our NZ airports AES compatible? Which ones?

No NZ airports, and only Brisbane in Oz.
See
http://www.aerosoft.com/shop-re/links/aesairports.html

As to the rest of the world: wouldn't fly anywhere without it.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:26 am
by toprob
I never considered AES for FS2004, but I did look at it for FSX, it was released just a bit too late for me to use. However I am looking at ideas for future projects (which may or may not include a new NZWN.) I remember seeing a preview video of a new system which I can't find now, due to my inability to remember anything important. This video included animated baggage handlers etc -- no, not FTX.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:36 am
by brad63
"Do you think that'll run FSX okay? I got upgraded to the i7 2600K (o/c model 4-4.5ghz) for free"

All looks good Scotty. Only thing I would look at is the PSU. Is 550W gonna be enough? What youre installing will be close to maxing it out.
Check out the Antec P193 (thats what Ive got) Its huge and came with a 1200W dual channel PSU in its own enclosure and a million fans,
well OK 4 up top plus the standard PSU fan for about $630.A bit pricey but great for upgrading internal hardware.You can chose your own PSU though.
Also the air filters are a breeze to clean as they all clip in or slide out.The P193 is one of my all time favorite bits of hardware that I can forsee having for a few years. Oh did I mention it is HUGE.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:55 am
by kcgb
ScottyB wrote:
QUOTE (ScottyB @ Jul 29 2011,9:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great info there Adamski - cheers mate.

So guys my new system will be:

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4Ghz/3.8Ghz turbo core x 4 Quad Core LGA 1155 8MB Cache Super Processor.
Motherboard: Intel H61 Chipset mATX up to 16GB DDR3 Speeds Socket 1155, 4 rear USBs, PCI-E X16. I dont tink you can over clock on H61, go with a P67 or Z68 board instead if you are overclocking and if your notjust get an ordanary I7 2600 (no 'K')
RAM: 8GB DDR3-1333 High performance Dual Channel Memory with low latencies and lifetime warranty
Graphics Card: Dedicated ATI Radeon HD5830 1GB Get a Nvidia card, ATI card and FSX dont mix, lots of clouds bog them down and there Antianilsing isn't very good plus fswaterconfigerator dosn't work with them.
Hard Drive: 1TB (1000GB) 7200RPM SATA3.0 HDD
Optical: FASTEST 24X Dual Layer DVD-RW
Case/Power: 550Watt Cooler Master Elite mATX Case, Solid construction, piano black front panel. 2 Front USBs and audio ports. Thermalmaster ultra reliable power supply.
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit Full Version with Disc and Certificate.
Monitor: LATEST AOC 22" LED Full HD 2M:1 Contrast Ratio 1920*1080 Resolution Built in Speakers, USB ports, touch buttons - 3 years warranty!

Do you think that'll run FSX okay? I got upgraded to the i7 2600K (o/c model 4-4.5ghz) for free smile.gif



toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Jul 29 2011,11:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never considered AES for FS2004, but I did look at it for FSX, it was released just a bit too late for me to use. However I am looking at ideas for future projects (which may or may not include a new NZWN.) I remember seeing a preview video of a new system which I can't find now, due to my inability to remember anything important. This video included animated baggage handlers etc -- no, not FTX.



I think your talking about the one from FSDreamteam.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:00 pm
by Nzeddy
Don't get AES! Wait for FSDreamTeam GSX which is like AES but better and works with ALL airports for FSX. Not released yet and looks awesome!

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=4137.0


ATI sucks get Nvidia. biggrin.gif GTX570 would be good, IMO.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:10 pm
by toprob
kcgb wrote:
QUOTE (kcgb @ Jul 29 2011,11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think your talking about the one from FSDreamteam.


Cheers, I've now bookmarked it. Twice, just in case. Now, back to work, if I can remember what I was doing...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:53 pm
by ScottyB
Okay so we've determined:

550 watt power supply wont be enough
Stick with Nvidia - what's the Nvidia's equivalent to the ATI HD5830?
Better motherboard (one that can be O/C'd)

Correct?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:07 pm
by brad63
Check out the Asus GeForce ENGTS450 DX11 card at around $200.Seems to be good value.
But Nvidia owners on here will have a better idea.
550W PSU "should" be enough until you add another card.The suggested P193
and 1200W PSU is prob a little extreme for the price. Some cards will draw 100-150W
loaded though.So if you add another one........

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:13 pm
by Adamski
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Jul 29 2011,12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, back to work, if I can remember what I was doing...

Join the club laugh.gif ... one advantage is that I can re-read all my books and re-watch all my DVDs winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:46 pm
by Bazza
Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jul 29 2011,2:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Join the club laugh.gif ... one adavantage is that I can re-read all my books and re-watch all my DVDs winkyy.gif


So I'm not alone then....?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:00 pm
by Ian Warren
Look at the way that chap is throwing the bags on to the trolley , just like the real thing , this looks like a lotta fun biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:53 pm
by Adamski
Bazza wrote:
QUOTE (Bazza @ Jul 29 2011,2:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I'm not alone then....?

Who said that? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:33 pm
by kcgb
ScottyB wrote:
QUOTE (ScottyB @ Jul 29 2011,12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay so we've determined:

550 watt power supply wont be enough
Stick with Nvidia - what's the Nvidia's equivalent to the ATI HD5830?
Better motherboard (one that can be O/C'd)

Correct?


Get a GTX 460 or over, 560Ti or 570 would be best. choices are 460, 465, 470, 480 (465, 470 and 480 run hot and loud, cant be clocked much higher) 560TI, 570 or 580.
If you get a 570 or 580 you will need at least a 750Watt PSU

And if this is mainly for FSX you should just get a i5 2500K, the only differnce is that the 2500K dosn't have hyperthreading which FSX can use anyway.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:14 pm
by LMerraine
I've started my alzheimer DVD collection, can't wait to watch 6th sense again and be shocked smile.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:45 pm
by deeknow
Yeah as discussed I'd look at a bigger PSU, I had a 500W one initially which I've since had to replace, if you can negotiate one now at purchase time you should save some $$$

Also, I've been pricing up some bits for myself lately, can anyone confirm that to take full advantage of 3-channel architecture in the i7 chipset that you should be fitting 3 (or 6) sticks of RAM? If that's the case then Scotty you should look at fitting 3x2GB sticks of memory instead of the 8GB you're looking at now (or 3x4GB but thats probably overkill)

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:10 am
by brad63
deeknow wrote:
QUOTE (deeknow @ Jul 29 2011,10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah as discussed I'd look at a bigger PSU, I had a 500W one initially which I've since had to replace, if you can negotiate one now at purchase time you should save some $$$

Also, I've been pricing up some bits for myself lately, can anyone confirm that to take full advantage of 3-channel architecture in the i7 chipset that you should be fitting 3 (or 6) sticks of RAM? If that's the case then Scotty you should look at fitting 3x2GB sticks of memory instead of the 8GB you're looking at now (or 3x4GB but thats probably overkill)


From what Ive read 3x2.Gb or 3x4Gb is best,if youve got a tri-channel MB that can support it.Ideally CL8 or better (this ram is pricey though compared to CL9). I should have done this myself but could only get pairs of ram in the type I wanted making one redundant.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:58 am
by ScottyB
brad63 wrote:
QUOTE (brad63 @ Jul 30 2011,12:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what Ive read 3x2.Gb or 3x4Gb is best,if youve got a tri-channel MB that can support it.Ideally CL8 or better (this ram is pricey though compared to CL9). I should have done this myself but could only get pairs of ram in the type I wanted making one redundant.


So would 3x2 GB be better than 2x4 GB? Even though the first only has 6GB, and the latter has 8GB?