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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:21 pm
by KiwiBuilder
Hi all ,

Just built two RNAV Z Approaches for NZQN. RNAVZ23/RNAVZ05.
They are not totally complete yet. Just flu the RNAVZ23 to missed APP and seemed to work okay....Can someone else test it and tell me want you think???

How to install:

1. Back up your NZQN file first. (in PMDG SIDS/STAR)

2. IN NZQN File:
Replace FIX field with this:

FIXES
FIX CH LATLON S 43 30.246 E 172 30.87816
FIX D175D LATLON S 45 2.45568 E 168 45.3195
FIX D207E LATLON S 45 2.20584 E 168 41.48916
FIX D214D LATLON S 45 1.17714 E 168 42.18186
FIX DOXIS LATLON S 45 2.63334 E 169 7.48998
FIX LXNB LATLON S 45 9.93168 E 169 28.79166
FIX MONB LATLON S 45 29.8167 E 167 43.09998
FIX NV LATLON S 46 24.69366 E 168 19.05648
FIX POMOT LATLON S 43 29.08902 E 169 54.79254
FIX RY LATLON S 44 8.10618 E 170 16.83318
FIX SH LATLON S 44 59.04666 E 168 46.95834
FIX QN662 LATLON S 45 04.30000 E 168 43.00000
FIX QN654 LATLON S 45 01.60000 E 168 42.00000
FIX HAWEA LATLON S 44 37.50000 E 169 25.60000
FIX CRIFL LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 13.50000
FIX VANGA LATLON S 44 52.90000 E 168 47.40000
FIX CRNET LATLON S 44 57.30000 E 168 42.90000
FIX ZIGZO LATLON S 45 02.70000 E 168 45.40000
FIX VARCO LATLON S 44 47.80000 E 169 18.40000
FIX CRMWL LATLON S 45 02.00000 E 169 07.20000
FIX NEVIS LATLON S 45 02.80000 E 169 00.80000
FIX BUNGY LATLON S 45 00.20000 E 168 53.80000
FIX QN451 LATLON S 45 00.30000 E 168 49.60000
FIX QN454 LATLON S 45 00.00000 E 168 52.00000
FIX QN463 LATLON S 45 03.00000 E 169 04.00000
FIX KALDI LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 30.50000
FIX CLUTA LATLON S 44 51.10000 E 169 20.30000
FIX CDRNA LATLON S 44 54.70000 E 168 59.70000
FIX SKPRZ LATLON S 44 46.40000 E 168 33.10000
FIX QN466 LATLON S 44 58.70000 E 169 09.05000
FIX QN468 LATLON S 44 56.70000 E 169 05.00000
FIX QN726 LATLON S 45 10.00000 E 168 44.51500
FIX QN730 LATLON S 45 14.00000 E 168 44.51200
FIX NV LATLON S 46 25.10000 E 168 19.10000
ENDFIXES

3. UNDER " ENDSIDS"

ADD:

APPROACHES
APPROACH RNAVZ05 FIX VANGA 8000 SPEED 210 FIX CRNET 6300 SPEED 180 FIX ZIGZO 4410 SPEED 170 FIX OVERFLY QN662 3350 FIX QN654 1750 RNW 05
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 FIX CRIFL SPEED 230
APPROACH RNAVZ23 FIX OVERFLY CRMWL SPEED 180 FIX OVERFLY QN463 FIX OVERFLY NEVIS 5300 FIX OVERFLY BUNGY 3330 FIX QN454 2730 FIX QN451 2210 RNW 23 FIX QN654 FIX OVERFLY QN662 FIX QN726 SPEED 180 FIX QN730 FIX NV
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 230 FIX VARCO SPEED 220
TRANSITION KALDI FIX KALDI AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 220 FIX CLUTA SPEED 210
TRANSITION SKPRZ FIX SKPRZ 16000 SPEED 250 FIX CDRNA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 200 FIX OVERFLY QN468 FIX OVERFLY QN466
ENDAPPROACHES

4. SAVE

Cheers

Chris

PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:47 pm
by Ian Warren
All the years i've never played with a FMC , guess with this data be Guinea Pig and give it a go unsure.gif ... if i crash and die i'll come and haunt ya winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:20 pm
by KiwiBuilder
hey Ian.

Yes you get rather close to the mountains on these approaches!Looks great with EGPWS Terrain on ND in crappy weather...You really have to be at least 180kts with gear down Flap 15 by CRMWL (on RNAVZ23) otherwise its hard to stay in VNAV PTH ohmy.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:44 pm
by Sinz
Ok..
I could be missing something should I Not have deleted all the other FIXES?
I deleted all between FIXES and ENDFIXES and Replaced with what you have here then added to exiting between APPROACHES and ENDAPPROACHES.
As soon as I entered NZQN I got a "NZQN ERR BN125 FIX N/A" Cleared error and tried to enter my ARR and had No SIDs/STARs at all.

Will try leaving in the Original FIXES and add the ones you have here.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:08 pm
by Sinz
OK..

Second attempt. All seemed to be fine till I hit ARR saw both the RNAVZ 05 and 23 but as soon as I selected one I got a "NOT IN DATA BASE".

Am I missing a step?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:42 pm
by KiwiBuilder
Hi SINZ, New_Zealand_etc.gif

mmmmmm...Im using NAVDATA CYC 1207.



Heres my complete NZQN File:


//NZQN (QUEENSTOWN)
//Worldwide Navaid Database for PMDG
//Exported via DFD v1.0 12.0629
//Software copyright © 2012 Richard Stefan, NAVData-Service
//Support available via forum at http://forum.navigraph.com
//
//Data provided by Navigraph - www.navigraph.com
//Data copyright © 2012 Navtech Inc
//This data may not be used, recompiled, interpreted or
//distributed for any purpose without the written consent
//of Navigraph.
//
//The contents of this database is dated and must not be
//used for real world navigation as it is unlawful and
//unsafe to do so.
//
//------------------------------------------------------
//AIRAC Cycle : 1207 (28/JUN/2012 - 25/JUL/2012) - Rev.2
//------------------------------------------------------
FIXES
FIX CH LATLON S 43 30.246 E 172 30.87816
FIX D175D LATLON S 45 2.45568 E 168 45.3195
FIX D207E LATLON S 45 2.20584 E 168 41.48916
FIX D214D LATLON S 45 1.17714 E 168 42.18186
FIX DOXIS LATLON S 45 2.63334 E 169 7.48998
FIX LXNB LATLON S 45 9.93168 E 169 28.79166
FIX MONB LATLON S 45 29.8167 E 167 43.09998
FIX NV LATLON S 46 24.69366 E 168 19.05648
FIX POMOT LATLON S 43 29.08902 E 169 54.79254
FIX RY LATLON S 44 8.10618 E 170 16.83318
FIX SH LATLON S 44 59.04666 E 168 46.95834
FIX QN662 LATLON S 45 04.30000 E 168 43.00000
FIX QN654 LATLON S 45 01.60000 E 168 42.00000
FIX HAWEA LATLON S 44 37.50000 E 169 25.60000
FIX CRIFL LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 13.50000
FIX VANGA LATLON S 44 52.90000 E 168 47.40000
FIX CRNET LATLON S 44 57.30000 E 168 42.90000
FIX ZIGZO LATLON S 45 02.70000 E 168 45.40000
FIX VARCO LATLON S 44 47.80000 E 169 18.40000
FIX CRMWL LATLON S 45 02.00000 E 169 07.20000
FIX NEVIS LATLON S 45 02.80000 E 169 00.80000
FIX BUNGY LATLON S 45 00.20000 E 168 53.80000
FIX QN451 LATLON S 45 00.30000 E 168 49.60000
FIX QN454 LATLON S 45 00.00000 E 168 52.00000
FIX QN463 LATLON S 45 03.00000 E 169 04.00000
FIX KALDI LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 30.50000
FIX CLUTA LATLON S 44 51.10000 E 169 20.30000
FIX CDRNA LATLON S 44 54.70000 E 168 59.70000
FIX SKPRZ LATLON S 44 46.40000 E 168 33.10000
FIX QN466 LATLON S 44 58.70000 E 169 09.05000
FIX QN468 LATLON S 44 56.70000 E 169 05.00000
FIX QN726 LATLON S 45 10.00000 E 168 44.51500
FIX QN730 LATLON S 45 14.00000 E 168 44.51200
FIX NV LATLON S 46 25.10000 E 168 19.10000
ENDFIXES

RNWS
RNW 05
RNW 14
RNW 23
RNW 32
ENDRNWS


SIDS
SID BGY4 RNW 23 TRK 234 UNTIL 5.0 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY D175D SPEED 180 FIX SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION CH TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 009 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX CH
TRANSITION DOXIS FIX DOXIS AT OR ABOVE 7100
TRANSITION LX TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 FIX LXNB
TRANSITION POMOT TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 335 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX POMOT
TRANSITION RY TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 358 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX RY
SID BRG4 RNW 05 TRK 054 UNTIL 1600 TRK 360 INTERCEPT RADIAL 028 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TRK 225 INTERCEPT RADIAL 290 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION CH TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 009 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX CH
TRANSITION DOXIS FIX DOXIS AT OR ABOVE 7100
TRANSITION LX TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 FIX LXNB
TRANSITION POMOT TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 355 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX POMOT
TRANSITION RY TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 358 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX RY
SID BWN3 RNW 23 TRK 234 UNTIL 5.0 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY D175D SPEED 180 FIX SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION POMOT TRK 252 UNTIL 9800 FIX POMOT
SID CRN4 RNW 23 TRK 234 UNTIL 5.0 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY D175D SPEED 180 FIX SH
TRANSITION CH FIX CH
TRANSITION POMOT FIX POMOT
TRANSITION RY FIX RY
SID FKN3 RNW 23 TRK 234 UNTIL 5.0 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TRK 054 INTERCEPT RADIAL 169 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY D214D SPEED 180
TRANSITION MO TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TRK 182 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX SH FIX MONB
TRANSITION NV TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TRK 139 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX SH FIX NV
TRANSITION SH TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX SH
SID JAR2 RNW 05 TRK 054 UNTIL 2.5 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION CH TRK 178 UNTIL 9800 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX CH
TRANSITION LX TRK 178 UNTIL 9800 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX LXNB
TRANSITION MO TRK 178 UNTIL 9800 FIX MONB
TRANSITION NV TRK 178 UNTIL 9800 FIX NV
TRANSITION RY TRK 178 UNTIL 9800 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX RY
SID KLN3 RNW 05 TRK 054 UNTIL 2.5 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX OVERFLY SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION MO TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TRK 182 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX MONB
TRANSITION NV TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TRK 139 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX NV
TRANSITION SH TRK 214 UNTIL 7500 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX SH
SID LMD3 RNW 05 TRK 054 UNTIL 2.5 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TURN LEFT DIRECT FIX SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION POMOT TRK 252 UNTIL 9800 TURN RIGHT DIRECT FIX POMOT
SID SHD3 RNW 23 TRK 234 UNTIL 1600 FIX D207E SPEED 180 TRK 113 INTERCEPT RADIAL 185 FROM FIX SH SPEED 180 TRK 339 INTERCEPT RADIAL 027 TO FIX D207E SPEED 180 FIX OVERFLY D207E AT OR ABOVE 3800 SPEED 180 FIX SH SPEED 180
TRANSITION CH TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 009 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX CH
TRANSITION DOXIS FIX DOXIS AT OR ABOVE 7100
TRANSITION LX TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 FIX LXNB
TRANSITION POMOT TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 335 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX POMOT
TRANSITION RY TRK 080 UNTIL 7100 TRK 358 INTERCEPT RADIAL 000 TO FIX SH FIX RY
ENDSIDS

APPROACHES
APPROACH RNAVZ05 FIX VANGA 8000 SPEED 210 FIX CRNET 6300 SPEED 180 FIX ZIGZO 4410 SPEED 170 FIX OVERFLY QN662 3350 FIX QN654 1750 RNW 05
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 FIX CRIFL SPEED 230
APPROACH RNAVZ23 FIX OVERFLY CRMWL SPEED 180 FIX OVERFLY QN463 FIX OVERFLY NEVIS 5300 FIX OVERFLY BUNGY 3330 FIX QN454 2730 FIX QN451 2210 RNW 23 FIX QN654 FIX OVERFLY QN662 FIX QN726 SPEED 180 FIX QN730 FIX NV
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 230 FIX VARCO SPEED 220
TRANSITION KALDI FIX KALDI AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 220 FIX CLUTA SPEED 210
TRANSITION SKPRZ FIX SKPRZ 16000 SPEED 250 FIX CDRNA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 200 FIX OVERFLY QN468 FIX OVERFLY QN466
ENDAPPROACHES

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:09 pm
by Sinz
I'm guessing then that would do it as I do not subscribe to www.navigraph.com and am probably using Nav Data from when FSX was first released laugh.gif

No wonder I never really line up on the Runways very well dry.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:23 pm
by KiwiBuilder
Sinz wrote:
QUOTE (Sinz @ Jul 6 2012,3:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm guessing then that would do it as I do not subscribe to www.navigraph.com and am probably using Nav Data from when FSX was first released laugh.gif

No wonder I never really line up on the Runways very well dry.gif

laugh.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:59 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
Keen to give this a go, where do I find the NZQN folder to input the data? I'm using NAVDATA CYC 1207 also.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:32 pm
by Sinz
victor_alpha_charlie wrote:
QUOTE (victor_alpha_charlie @ Jul 6 2012,7:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keen to give this a go, where do I find the NZQN folder to input the data? I'm using NAVDATA CYC 1207 also.


(Your FSX Drive and folder, IE C:) :\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\PMDG\SIDSTARS\NZQN.txt

Dont forget to backup your main copy before changing things.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:50 am
by rick66
KiwiBuilder wrote:
QUOTE (KiwiBuilder @ Jul 10 2012,10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all ,

Just built two RNAV Z Approaches for NZQN. RNAVZ23/RNAVZ05.
They are not totally complete yet. Just flu the RNAVZ23 to missed APP and seemed to work okay....Can someone else test it and tell me want you think???

How to install:

1. Back up your NZQN file first. (in PMDG SIDS/STAR)

2. IN NZQN File:
Replace FIX field with this:

FIXES
FIX CH LATLON S 43 30.246 E 172 30.87816
FIX D175D LATLON S 45 2.45568 E 168 45.3195
FIX D207E LATLON S 45 2.20584 E 168 41.48916
FIX D214D LATLON S 45 1.17714 E 168 42.18186
FIX DOXIS LATLON S 45 2.63334 E 169 7.48998
FIX LXNB LATLON S 45 9.93168 E 169 28.79166
FIX MONB LATLON S 45 29.8167 E 167 43.09998
FIX NV LATLON S 46 24.69366 E 168 19.05648
FIX POMOT LATLON S 43 29.08902 E 169 54.79254
FIX RY LATLON S 44 8.10618 E 170 16.83318
FIX SH LATLON S 44 59.04666 E 168 46.95834
FIX QN662 LATLON S 45 04.30000 E 168 43.00000
FIX QN654 LATLON S 45 01.60000 E 168 42.00000
FIX HAWEA LATLON S 44 37.50000 E 169 25.60000
FIX CRIFL LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 13.50000
FIX VANGA LATLON S 44 52.90000 E 168 47.40000
FIX CRNET LATLON S 44 57.30000 E 168 42.90000
FIX ZIGZO LATLON S 45 02.70000 E 168 45.40000
FIX VARCO LATLON S 44 47.80000 E 169 18.40000
FIX CRMWL LATLON S 45 02.00000 E 169 07.20000
FIX NEVIS LATLON S 45 02.80000 E 169 00.80000
FIX BUNGY LATLON S 45 00.20000 E 168 53.80000
FIX QN451 LATLON S 45 00.30000 E 168 49.60000
FIX QN454 LATLON S 45 00.00000 E 168 52.00000
FIX QN463 LATLON S 45 03.00000 E 169 04.00000
FIX KALDI LATLON S 44 42.70000 E 169 30.50000
FIX CLUTA LATLON S 44 51.10000 E 169 20.30000
FIX CDRNA LATLON S 44 54.70000 E 168 59.70000
FIX SKPRZ LATLON S 44 46.40000 E 168 33.10000
FIX QN466 LATLON S 44 58.70000 E 169 09.05000
FIX QN468 LATLON S 44 56.70000 E 169 05.00000
FIX QN726 LATLON S 45 10.00000 E 168 44.51500
FIX QN730 LATLON S 45 14.00000 E 168 44.51200
FIX NV LATLON S 46 25.10000 E 168 19.10000
ENDFIXES

3. UNDER " ENDSIDS"

ADD:

APPROACHES
APPROACH RNAVZ05 FIX VANGA 8000 SPEED 210 FIX CRNET 6300 SPEED 180 FIX ZIGZO 4410 SPEED 170 FIX OVERFLY QN662 3350 FIX QN654 1750 RNW 05
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 FIX CRIFL SPEED 230
APPROACH RNAVZ23 FIX OVERFLY CRMWL SPEED 180 FIX OVERFLY QN463 FIX OVERFLY NEVIS 5300 FIX OVERFLY BUNGY 3330 FIX QN454 2730 FIX QN451 2210 RNW 23 FIX QN654 FIX OVERFLY QN662 FIX QN726 SPEED 180 FIX QN730 FIX NV
TRANSITION HAWEA FIX HAWEA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 230 FIX VARCO SPEED 220
TRANSITION KALDI FIX KALDI AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 220 FIX CLUTA SPEED 210
TRANSITION SKPRZ FIX SKPRZ 16000 SPEED 250 FIX CDRNA AT OR ABOVE 10000 SPEED 200 FIX OVERFLY QN468 FIX OVERFLY QN466
ENDAPPROACHES

4. SAVE

Cheers

Chris


Hello Chris, I wanted to thank you for your work, i tried the RNAV APP into NZQN and they work perfect, also if anyone has the Aivlasoft EFB it works with that as well , install the same as PMDG.

Rick