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Postby Charl » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:38 pm

A 3:00 AM trip to NZAA to drop off 2 pax bound for Sydney... Milk of Human Kindness eh?
So what do you do when you get back at that time of the night?

Fire up the sim, is what, and fly the flight.
This time, with an added element of Real vs Sim...

First, track the flight with Flight Radar Pro, and later, hook into YssY tower feed with Live ATC.
Then: see if you can make the sim do what they do.

Here we go then, 150nm out of Sydney (The yellow card is the FRPro screen grab)



Down we go, try and match altitude/Vert speed



Through 20,000 ft



Keeping from overspeed was really tricky, those boys fly it down on the very limit of not using airbrakes it seems.
Then: Track 169deg! Huh?



OK... we are being threaded into the queue



Finals now, and conveniently FRPro runs slightly ahead, shows us where we'll park.



Real vs Sim, I was impressed with FS9's fidelity.
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:48 pm

If anyone needed a tutorial to learn a simple flight in crossing the Tasman and a cue card to go by ... this will do it cool.gif
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Postby Charl » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:06 pm

I had FRPro running on an iPad next to the keyboard.
The last 5 minutes was REALLY busy!

It felt like flying in formation, trying to keep up.
Pick a flight and try it, it's far more difficult than it looks.

I made a clip which I'll cut and put up, it has live ATC which is a plus.
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Postby deeknow » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:32 pm

Brilliant stuff Charl, looks like quite a challenge keeping them in synch, nicely done clapping.gif
If you (or anyone else) fancies flying into YSSY with good traffic levels and busy ATC comms, try the Monday Milkrun, every week on VATSIM. Most of the aircraft are flying between YSSY and YMML, gets pretty frantic at times.
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Postby Charl » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:05 pm

Cheers Dean... my flightsim computer is on a wireless subnet and has never managed to get into any online session, alas.
But there was plenty of AI ( I have it all!) and as you can see from the FRPro grab, plenty of ATC threading them in, so as mentioned: pretty busy!
I haven't done Airliner stuff for a while, thoroughly enjoyed this...
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Postby AlisterC » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:03 pm

Glad to hear you are enjoying the airliner time. That's a neat idea to follow along like that. I enjoyed your little story biggrin.gif

I am parked in London Heathrow at the moment, wondering where to fly an airliner next lol. 700 airline flights exactly since about July 2010, should post my map up..
Anyway....
what 737 are you flying? The posky planes I find overspeed pretty badly on descent. But also, you are very heavy on fuel on the descent, that won't help either. I would generally take about 22000lbs of fuel for the entire journey, and will have plenty left in reserve when I get there. Each of your wings has that still onboard at your top of descent winkyy.gif plus another 6000lbs in the centre. So there are a number of reasons why you might be overspeeding and they might not. Being a bit heavier than them might be one of them biggrin.gif

By the way Charl I flew the 787 KDEN-KIAH-EGLL and she flies really great now, thanks. Have some glitches with the wing contrails at low speed, but when they work they look really cool.
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Postby Charl » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:53 pm

Alister I was using the Air Scheffel 738 in a Virgin Blue livery.
The model is ancient, based on the FFX one I think.
But the FDE feels pretty convincing.

I was going to make up a little story here, about fuel being cheaper in NZ than OZ, and so you could "tank" some back to Sydney, to sell at a profit!
But the truth sadly is, I just jumped in and flew it! Given the time of day, I think I was doing OK just to get it in the air...

Whatever... my actual pre-occupation is the new TDS B737-700 - a lovely model!
There's the usual stuff going on with FDE mods - and vortex contrails!





I spent a bit of time learning this stuff, and will mod the 787 in due course.

Try this meantime: open the .fx file with notepad and change these entries to read:
TempK=104
TempRate=0
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:01 am

Nice private jet , you get a few BBJ's park up in Christchurch , never seen 'Charls Jet' parked up there yet tho cool.gif
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Postby AlisterC » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:38 am

Following your links around the other day I too came across their 737. Looks nice! Not that I need another 737, but anything free is always welcomed smile.gif
No worries about the fuel, at least you'll know you'll make it biggrin.gif
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Postby Charl » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:25 am

I just love the audio-checklisted panel on the AS model.
For someone who generally goes <Ctrl-E> and away, hearing (and seeing) all the switches and bits being tripped on cue throughout the flight, is just amazing.

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QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Sep 21 2013,6:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice private jet , you get a few BBJ's park up in Christchurch , never seen 'Charls Jet' parked up there yet tho cool.gif
Haha bust by "Hawkeye" Warren!
When I debug a new model, I always have a "Charl's Jet" which is the mule for the various trials and tweaks... there is an entire hangar full of the things smile.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:38 am

Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Sep 21 2013,10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always have a "Charl's Jet" which is the mule for the various trials and tweaks... there is an entire hangar full of the things smile.gif

Oh crikey , don't tell me ... you have a special airfield somewhere .... or is it a hanger off limits on some secret location ninja.gif
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Postby Charl » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:15 pm

37'17" N 115'47" W smile.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:25 pm

Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Sep 22 2013,12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
37'17" N 115'47" W smile.gif

Ill get ... "yes we no who you are ... John McClain on the case " .... YIPPEE KI AYE ! ninja.gif
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