ANZ virtual

[Mike M]

Hi all

I was wondering if someone could help!!!!

I'm currently sick at home with the flu, so with all this time on my hands I tried to join ANZ virtual, but I have not got a reply from the webmaster as of yet.

I'am not trying to be impatient, but if have to spend another day inside with this crazy cat of mine I'm going to go mad.

Cheers

Michael

[Jimmy]

Hi michael

check this out: http://z11.invisionfree.com/nzff/index. ... wtopic=172

Im starting to wounder if anyone actuly runs that VA lol

James B)

[Zenith]

Ask omitchell he is the CEO of Virtual Air New Zealand.

[ardypilot]

If someone has enough time and patience, I reckon they should create a whole new virtual ANZ from scratch... (wishful thinking a load)

[Zöltuger]

If someone has enough time and patience, I reckon they should create a whole new virtual ANZ from scratch...

sounds like you just volunteered?

[ardypilot]

sounds like you just volunteered?

Unfortuantly I have far to little time to even attempt to create a project of that size

[Mike M]

Thanks for all the help everyone

Michael

[Codge]

Does this virtual ANZ not really exist? is it a ghost? Sort of an AirNZ Foo Fighters.If anyone knows what is involved to run a virtual airline can they give some sort of overview here as I could possibly be interested. Sort of the official NZFF airline as thats where the pilots will come from.Do I need a proper server and how much would it cost to set up and run(there's bound to be some cost)My computer is always on and I have a permanant IP address,ihug gives you one if you ask and my broadband seems reliable and is always paid in advance by autopayment,(what I'm saying really is that I'm reliable)I won't need a billion dollar bailout by the government either at some stage! So go ahead and put some ideas here in this thread and I just might be keen.I'm a solo dad so I'm always home most of the time and could be just the person needed to do this.If you would like to be a pilot make a post here to get an idea of numbers for a start.CEO of Air NZ virtual(quietly mumble the 'virtual' bit) would sound better than solo father when asked what I do for a living,I would be getting paid by the govt to be ceo of the national carrier and not telling lies either!

[Alex]

I'm a member of vANZ, the VA has seen better times, but still manages to function reasonably effectively (except of course the sign-up bit), after sending about 5 emails to the CEO, webmaster, and the webmasters work email address, I got added about a month later. So if you persist, you will succeed.

I would only join this new Virtual Air NZ if it offered me something more than just flying their routes (which I can do already and with a nifty flight tracker on vANZ).

Alex

[ZK-MAT]

Seems to be a touchy subject this one!

I've been with VANZ since October 2004 and whilst the sign up process isn't as fluid as it could be at the moment the VA is still active, an example is that pilots have flown over 7000 miles this month to date (4 days).

Owen knows what is involved in running a VA, and from my discussions with him it's not all beer and skittles. A large part of operations is checking and authorising logbooks, or developing an effective reporting system with all that entails. Schedule updates are quite a process and at times politics and hidden agendas on the forums can cause rifts.

I guess I am saying I wouldn't take on the job, and wish all the best to anyone comtemplating starting up a VA. Competition can be a healthy thing, if you can do better let's see it.

On another note there are always international VA's out there. VPA applicants must pass an exam to get in, so start swotting any potential Free Wings pilots

[Codge]

I agree Mat,it is a touchy subject I can see by reading the forums about it.They are forum threads that haven't been replied to in a while. I suppose if you just host a game you are limited by 16 is it on at any one time.A server allows heaps more.Still I can see myself maybe being a CEO of a VA. Not promising just seeking info at this stage.To start the idea,well my idea of a VA is briefly,Open to anyone.All skill levels.All types of aircraft including helos.Now I know it is a fact in real life you cannot be all things to all people.I imagine it's the same in a VA too,although I can't see why at this stage as it is cyberspace.Eg AirNZ have link aircraft operaters like Air Nelson and Mt Cook Airlines that all do charter work.I want to know what people want.Who knows maybe they want a reliable server with ATC that caters for an airline or two and small charter ops and helos.I am thinking if people had FS passengers they can send in reports easily.Even maybe get sponsorship and have prizes,small things donated by us the NZ FS community.It looks like another poll is in order.

[squirrel350]

I would be keen to fly a heli for your VA if you put one together you should start up a VA version of the Phillips Search and Rescue Trust hehehehe a mix of helos and planks serving medical services.
Scott

[Codge]

Now thats a good idea,we could go looking for crashed air craft and re-enact real ones from the past.Remember John Funnel of Taupo flying down to Auckland Island to get that dude who lost and arm to a great white,was accompanied by a twin fixed wing of some sort. And that guy who got plucked off that fishing boat that got caught in the winch (he died,god bless him) And we can go to Antarctica in a Fleet of C130 Hercules carrying Bell 205 Huey's (i just love that sound) to re-enact the Erubus flt 901 DC10 recovery of the bods. Just got to get someone good with sceneries that can put photo's into FS for us and there is NZRAF liveries out there too.We can all have the same craft in our folders so they all show up to each other,and once this NZ AI is done it will be (I hate to say it cos I'm not cool-too old ) the Bomb ,I wonder if anyone would model a nuke for us,now that really would be the bomb! Excellent idea Squirrel.The possibilities are endless,it would never be boring as we would have constant new sceneries like hover controll.Give me some time to find out about it and I'll do it.A focus on Helos but still having "planks will keep it the right size-not too big to care and it will get more people learning to fly choppers if they see us showing off in them too and thats got to be a good thing.Great POD (point of Difference) I hate to be a copy clone anyway.I'm kind of fond of my freeware H500 Blue Police HELO. I used to hate it being a Police Helo but now I've got a reason to like it.Best idea I've heard in FS for ages Squirrel!

[creator2003]

ill help with scenery if you like and acouple of flights (helos rises from the deeps of flightsim in NZ) yeah i like the sound of that i can help make all sorts of scenes thats kind of what im doing in the waikato all my objects will be able to be place by anyone who has ezscenery so i wont have to place them every week or day for you many persons can help


cool let us know whats up when you decied
cheers mike
ps already working on fire trucks etc...

[ardypilot]

Instead of starting up a whole new vANZ, it sounds like they just need someone new to conduct the sign up process... but I really like the mission based ideas that your talking about Codge- civillian missions, search and resue kinda thing- mixed eggbeaters and fixed wing

Also, speaking of the Erubus DC10, and hearing Alex say "I would only join this new Virtual Air NZ if it offered me something more than just flying their routes" then perhaps you could start up "vANZ Historic" not flying their current fleet, but say thier fleet from the 70's or 80's- and the routes that went with them...?

[Alex]

The historic thing sounds good, but I personally don't like the SAR stuff. I think any ANZ VA should stick to flying current or past routes, or both.

Alex

[Codge]

Thanks for the support Natas,you've only got 7 more posts to make and you get 3 boxes!that is quite an achievement in itself.I,m super keen to do scenery too so you wouldn't be leaned on for ever and it will be great to just have someone else to tap for tips and advice about it.Alot of the scenarios will be one offs and we'll get away with some crude stuff from time to time when there isn't time,I hope that makes sense! I just need to find out about servers.

Alex,One idea is that everyone flies on the same server,like the swiss server that i've flown on a bit.Different people doing different things become like real AI for each other.I'd put up a teamspeak server with different channels and have the rescue choppers install skype so that just like a telephone their computer will ring and their services required.It would be great to be sharing the skies with different operators.Scheduled VA services for some and drop of hat stuff for others,some just doing GA flights on their own ,whatever is real within reason of course it would still be fairly structured.I just want to see what interest there is first,the idea is not even a day old yet!

[Jimmy]

Sounds good codge. Isnt that something like vatsim or ivao?

Natas,you've only got 7 more posts to make and you get 3 boxes

ahh good I wont be the only one with "fourm addict" under my name lol

[creator2003]

yes codge your idea of an alrounder is exactly what i think we need here in nz i would far more like flying on a new zealand server that has rotor/ fixed etc... lights even ships and boats what ever u want to go out in but also missions right in the middle of that with a skype phone call etc... WOW this is what we need and i know i would lov
there are so many newbies i think joining the crazzz and with the fsx coming and if i remember right you can use the xbox 360 its going to really swing our way for us hardcore simmers
i know i want everything i can for the sim so this will be one big important part of the our as real as it gets New Zealand
we are just getting better everyday
mike...
oh and yeah i see im not that far away from the 3 boxes cool do i get a prize
well some of use have alot to talk about i suppose 6 to go now

[Blackmagic]

I have seen version of Air new Zealand come and go but at the very least Owens version has stuck at it! You hear the words I can do better yet no one has. The VA pretty much runs along the biggest problem for it was the egos in the Forums and the difering views.
Some call it hidden agendas but what is a hidden agenda? Could it be a common passion and desire for the same subject.

In the last few years the number of Virtual Airlines has increased massivly and even the so called big ones have fallen in popularity. Simply because its so easy now to get a bit of webspace cheaply and do your own thing.

The scurge of VAs is simply keeping the interest of which given time will fade to something else. To many Simmers expect automted systems to log flights or answer me NOW!!!! rather than just plodding along enjoying themselves.

When I first joined a VA the norm was to send in the flights once a week via email and it got added by someone dedicated to it! How tiresome that gets after a few months huh?

Now people expect to file the FS Passenger reports which as I found out requires mysql servers which are not cheap to host either! See our hobby is expensive one way or another and we take advantage of those that fork out the bucks to give us something for Free.

Thats my view! If you can beat the hurdles then succeed beyond a year then thats what counts.