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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:09 pm
by Chairman
I may have just found another reason I'm drilling so many holes in the scenery around NZOH when I fly there in the Dreamfleet 727.

Now you see it ...


Now you don't ...


Any ideas anyone ? I don't get any beam coming in the other way on runway 9 either, but I can track to the VOR in the middle of the field just fine, and I get ILS at NZWN and everywhere else I fly no probs.

No comments about the flying please - I slewed back up after what, in the absence of any witnesses, I shall continue to claim as a landing.

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Thanks
Gary

Edit : It gets stranger ... I get no ILS at all for NZOH 27 in the F1 C172, or the F1 ATR, or the Aeroworx B200, or the LD767 etc etc etc ... but in the default Cessna I get a localiser.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:18 pm
by NZ255
Not sure if correct but try tuning that knob above the "P" on the 'pneumatic brake' red handle. It's in the 'off position currently. Try some of the other settings.

Just a wild guess, but the switch has something to do with navigation. I think

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:46 pm
by Adamski
Chairman wrote:
QUOTE (Chairman @ Nov 16 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I may have just found another reason I'm drilling so many holes in the scenery around NZOH when I fly there in the Dreamfleet 727.

Any ideas anyone ? I don't get any beam coming in the other way on runway 9 either, but I can track to the VOR in the middle of the field just fine, and I get ILS at NZWN and everywhere else I fly no probs.

Edit : It gets stranger ... I get no ILS at all for NZOH 27 in the F1 C172, or the F1 ATR, or the Aeroworx B200, or the LD767 etc etc etc ... but in the default Cessna I get a localiser.


Hmmm ... is the A/P slaved to the correct NAV channel?

For what it's worth, I get a decent ILS for NZOH R27 in FSX - with all aircraft (including the F1 ATR). Could it be that some install has screwed up your panels/gauges cfg? Try reinstalling one of the problem aircraft <??>.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:07 pm
by Chairman
I got it ... I rebooted earlier, which didn't help, but leaving the computer off for a few hours while I went out seems to have sorted it out. As I said, weird. Anyways, since you were kind enough to make a suggestion, here's a wee lesson in 727 autopilots smile.gif

NZ255 wrote:
QUOTE (NZ255 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not sure if correct but try tuning that knob above the "P" on the 'pneumatic brake' red handle. It's in the 'off position currently. Try some of the other settings.

Just a wild guess, but the switch has something to do with navigation. I think


Yes and No ...

That knob controls the flight director display. The 727 is interesting in a lot of ways, one of which is that the flight director and the autopilot are completely separate, have to be set up individually, and don't talk to each other - it's quite possible to have the autopilot doing one thing while the FD is telling you how to do something completely different.

Here's the ILS approach with the FD and the AP both looking at the ILS. Note that the same lights are on in both columns of the AP/FD display.



and here's the same situation with the AP tracking the ILS but the FD set up for a missed approach.



Just another reason I think the 727 is more interesting to fly than a glass cockpit - and something else to try and remember (actually as you observed I normally just don't bother turning the FD on laugh.gif )

Cheers
Gary

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:14 pm
by Chairman
Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Nov 16 2008, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm ... is the A/P slaved to the correct NAV channel?

For what it's worth, I get a decent ILS for NZOH R27 in FSX - with all aircraft (including the F1 ATR). Could it be that some install has screwed up your panels/gauges cfg? Try reinstalling one of the problem aircraft <??>.


Got it, was just a case of leaving the computer turned off for a while. Must have been static electricity build-up in the internal cabling due to the increased gravitational field you get with a full moon.

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Gary

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:47 am
by Adamski
Chairman wrote:
QUOTE (Chairman @ Nov 17 2008, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got it, was just a case of leaving the computer turned off for a while. Must have been static electricity build-up in the internal cabling due to the increased gravitational field you get with a full moon.


More likely to be ants eating the gold off your motherboard! (It happened to a keyboard of mine).

Good to hear it's all working. Amazing looking pit. I wonder whether it'd work in FSX? I see they haven't released the interior for the FSX "727 Captain" series.