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Postby Fozzer » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:19 am

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Thanks Paul, I'll give this a scwizz, always getting lost with TZ'd and frig just to muck everyone up in comes daylight saving.

Talking about time zones, Obviously a Southerly air flo here and cold air - the whopping great steam choo choo off the 1940/50s just blew the whistle he would have three miles away.


..One of the things that I now miss from my past...!

The comforting whistles of steam Locomotives during approaching obstacles, acknowledging waves from folks, certain celebrations, (New Year), etc!

All our Loco's are now Diesel Loco's and rarely, if ever, sound their horns!


More useful Time Zone stuff...... (together with Firefox; "Fox Clocks")....!...>>> http://www.worldtimezone.com/
(I set my clocks to 12-hour clock AM/PM, rather than a 24 hour clock, including my Forum Clocks).


Paul...now time for Bed... biggrin.gif ...!
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Postby ardypilot » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:24 am

Is there a NZMC airport that works with Robin's photoral subscription yet? The default FTX afcard and Mike's addon both make the runway float about 30 feet above the terrain. Would be good if this was fixed before the event?
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Postby emfrat » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:04 am

No floaties here, but there is a bit of an embankment in VLC. FTX does change some airport elevations, AFAIK.



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Postby ardypilot » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:21 am

How did you achieve this result Emfrat?
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:29 am

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Is there a NZMC airport that works with Robin's photoral subscription yet? The default FTX afcard and Mike's addon both make the runway float about 30 feet above the terrain. Would be good if this was fixed before the event?

I am ORBX loaded and I put the Cap Sim C130 yesterday evening and no floating runways with Mikes addon , thinking about this we need to a standard MESH level setting everyone is using so we can start to look at the problem.

I currently have my Mesh resolution at 5 m , mesh complexity 100% , this is a start , I'm more than happy to reduce to .. what is the standard .. 10 m ?

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How did you achieve this result Emfrat?

Andy , I'm fresh install only last week and settings above. I did save the flight at Mount Cook , a LC-130 , some reason everyone is having a lot off problems and I'm yet to install other fave scenery's
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Postby johnkiwi » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:03 pm

Where is today's flight starting from?
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Postby emfrat » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:04 pm

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How did you achieve this result Emfrat?


From the readme:
"This is a basic 3d terminal upgrade to default NZMC Mountcook Airport from fs-creations.org which sits best on the VLC 20meter mesh addon by http://www.vectorlandclass.co.nz/ also extra objects from my payware scenerys HamiltonX and TaupoX have been added to enhance the airport...copyright Creator2003 /Michael Allen-Andrews"

I run FSX +Acc in XP3 compatability on Win7x64, card is a Radeon HD6450, global tex res Very High.
I have VLC, with the GZ photoscenery, mesh res 1m, mesh complexity 100%, Texture res 7cm, Scenery Complexity Normal, A/Gen V. Dense.
FS Global 2010 mesh is also installed but I am quite sure I see the VLC 20m mesh at this location, as FS displays the highest resolution mesh it finds.

Hope this helps...
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Postby ardypilot » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:09 pm

Ah, dont know why I assumed you had FTX rather than VLC!

Mine looks like this:


This is with Mikes NZMC sitting at a higher priority than all my Orbx stuff, and the 'ADE_FTX_NZSI_NZMC_elevation_adjustment.BGL' moved from Scenery/World/Scenery to a backup folder. I tried sneaking the Orbx BGL back in, but had the same result :/
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Postby emfrat » Sun Aug 10, 2014 12:45 pm

Well, could you use ADEX to lower the airport elevation, or create a flatten to surround it, at the runway elevation? ADEX also allows blended flattens - in effect, you raise the terrain in stages which moves the embankment further away. In my shot, you can just see that VLC gives me an embankment at the lake end, and an excavation at the other, both about the same height.
ADEX allows quite complex flattens - I use Hama's Alvis Stalwart to trundle round marking the boundary.

EDIT: Just a late thought - don't you need to switch FTX off before you move the bgl, and then switch it on again to see the change?
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Postby SeanTK » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:53 am

And this is why it'll be in late September (among other reasons). Enough time to make sure everyone is sorted out and ready to go for the flight.

I realize this is very far in advance, but do any non-FSX users plan on joining us next month? Need to determine if we're using FSHost or a direct FSX connection.
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:42 am

I was to host a MP Yesterday but simply got caught out with visits and time, the one thing we .. I wanted to look into is doing a MP with FS-host and sort out why it is so jumpy and the other big issue over the last week is this elevation and mesh which is catching many out including myself.
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Postby Kamoflarj » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:24 pm

uhh, why september that's frikkin ages away?
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:46 pm

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uhh, why september that's frikkin ages away?

We were to have a MP yesterday afternoon and the peoples who turned up on TS I had to apologize, all the NZFFFer's simmers were hanging here ... sorta made it a little difficult and stretched the time.
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Postby Kamoflarj » Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:52 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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We were to have a MP yesterday afternoon and the peoples who turned up on TS I had to apologize, all the NZFFFer's simmers were hanging here ... sorta made it a little difficult and stretched the time.


fair call. Perhaps NZFF could look into a dedicated server for NZ again?
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:00 pm

Strangely and realistic, Here, me and history is the dedicated server for NZ multiplay smile.gif had the place rocking ... It is good to see a comeback and more than happy to keep it going .
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Postby Kamoflarj » Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:06 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Aug 11 2014,8:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Strangely and realistic, Here, me and history is the dedicated server for NZ multiplay smile.gif had the place rocking ... It is good to see a comeback and more than happy to keep it going .


Yeah man, you make a great host smile.gif will be looking forward to the next flight
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Postby ardypilot » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:30 pm

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Route:
Hokitika (NZHK) - Mount Cook (NZMC) - Timaru (NZTU)


Unless the Mount Cook elevation problem gets resolved before the date (assuming it's not just me having the problem!), how about replacing NZMC with Glentanner (NZGT), 15km down the valley? It's still covered by the photoreal, and doesn't have any conflict with FTX NZSI, and still has 1000m of bitumen!
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:08 pm

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Unless the Mount Cook elevation problem gets resolved before the date (assuming it's not just me having the problem!), how about replacing NZMC with Glentanner (NZGT), 15km down the valley? It's still covered by the photoreal, and doesn't have any conflict with FTX NZSI, and still has 1000m of bitumen!

It is head scratching strange many having those up and down problems, I have not had a chance to do or install further scenery and even create a flattens , good thing maybe is at least it is not isolated so it dose give idea's for fix's.
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Postby SeanTK » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:18 am

I'll look at some alternate destinations, or maybe some alternate routes to accommodate the Mount Cook issues. Remember, we have people using VLC, Orbx, or even default scenery, depending on their preferences and simulation.

Beyond the routing (which I'll look into) the following has to be accomplished prior to the event:

1. Determine if we will likely have non-FSX attendance. I realize this is more than a month out, but if non-FSX interest is shown, it'll at least allow us to prepare for a session via FSHost and all the idiosyncrasies that come with that.

2. Agree upon an aircraft or two that everyone will use. Again, less critical if using FSHost as one can customize what others appear as.
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:32 pm

We do have time to try the FSHost links out again, It seems the connection is a lot more stable from that six weeks two months back.
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