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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:34 am
by happytraveller
One small step for mankind, but one big step for me......

Been running FS9 and FSX together for a time but I realized that FSX has finally come of age, and IS much better than FS9. I had not used FS9 for a long time, so last night took the big step.....

Finally deleted all the FS9 files(well, almost, as I have kept some parts in case I can salvage anything from them) so from now on, it is FSX all the way.

Anybody else gone to FSX totally, or are you still running FS9 as well.

Bit more hard drive space free now as well!!!

Smooth landings (in FSX)

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:52 am
by Timmo
Good stuff :)
If you have the grunt to run it (which is only a matter of time) then youll see its better out of the box than a moderately fettled FS9 installation.

I still have Fs9 installed but have only only flown it once since I switched to FSX

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:53 am
by GASKA
Hey

I wont be upgrading to FSX because its to much like hardwork. I would have to build a new computer from the ground up. And that would take time which dont have worry about. Microsoft has made FSX way out reach for most people computerwize.

Im sticking with FS9.

jim >nzflag<

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:11 am
by happytraveller
I was tempted as well to stay with FS9 at first, but once you get used to the improved effects on FSX, then it is impossible to go back. FS9 was good, but FSX is better, so from now on for me it is FSX only.

It does not matter really whether it is FS9 or FSX (or X-Plane), if it gives you pleasure and you are happy with it then both are good.

smooth landings.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:26 pm
by AlisterC
I do love FSX, and agree it's the better sim (duck for cover) so I can see why you'd want to change for good. I've just got SOOO used to having FSnav that unless I am flying something like the Level D online in FSX, I feel I can't fly online accurately in fsx given I've not got fsnav.. So FS9 stays active for online flying, and FSX comes out when I want to be free to just enjoy the views.. :)

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:53 pm
by gokanru
FSX all the way here,some of the scenery for overseas is terrific,especially in the Dolomites and the Canadian Rockies.Mind you,there is lots of desert textures over there as well but on the bright side a lot of scenery has been done for the Northern hemisphere as well.

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:50 pm
by FlyingKiwi
If you have the hardware to run it, FSX is definitely the way to go. I initially installed FSX and was disappointed with the performance and switched back to FS9, but I missed FSX after a short while and ended up going back to it (plus the first patch helped improve performance) and since then I haven't looked back. Also, there are loads of addons for FSX out now - the FS developers community was a little slow to make the move to FSX but I would say at least 50% of the stuff coming out now is either purely for FSX, or at least fully compatible with it.

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:53 am
by ardypilot
QUOTE
I do love FSX, and agree it's the better sim (duck for cover)[/quote]
Personally, from the demo I played, the short while I had FSX installed and all the screenshots I have seen, I still think FSX looks really 'cartoony'. The high res capability is impressive, although all the land class looks like badly placed google earth pictures and the autogen placement has a 'noddyland' feel about it- while FS9 doesn't have large scale high res scenery, I believe after years of fine tuning, top end FSX vs top end FS9 right now is lenient to the latter... (runs off and hides in cave :@ )

Having said that, FSX has far better default aircraft and environmental settings, but the poor graphics on the ground (and ‘orriblely fake sea textures seen in many screenshots) ruin it for me- I'm sure these opinions will change when GTAIV comes out on PC, and I'll be forced to upgrade and properly grab a copy of X as well!

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:32 am
by Timmo
There is a huge difference between screen shots and motion though....case in point is the photoreal repaint of the Spit you posted not so long ago- Great screen shots, but all the shine, reflection, bump mapping is 'baked on'. In FSX that is all dynamic...so while the screen shots may look similar, playing it is very different.

It's the same with the water....its far more realistic in motion

The cartoony feel comment does have a bit of merit in the fact that some of the objects could have better textures but jumping back into FS9 after FSX....now THAT is a cartoon moment!....the colours are far to saturated, there are massive pixels everywhere...ick.

Simple fact of the matter is that 'its only a matter of time'- The flow of players switching to FSX isnt going to reverse or slow up but its a case of 'switching when you are ready'

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:43 am
by AlisterC
Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ May 3 2008, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
....its a case of 'switching when you are ready'


Just like it was with FS2004. No one wanted to switch from FS2002 in a hurry :lol:

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:15 am
by ardypilot
QUOTE
Simple fact of the matter is that 'its only a matter of time'- The flow of players switching to FSX isnt going to reverse or slow up but its a case of 'switching when you are ready'[/quote]
Yep, have to agree with you there- there will be a time, sometime in the future, where I will have to change my tune lol- good point also about the difference in static images and motion, my opinions are pretty bias, considering I don't have a decent enough computer to run X. My comment above is a bit tongue in cheek ;)

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:36 pm
by Charl
happytraveller wrote:
QUOTE (happytraveller @ May 2 2008, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Been running FS9 and FSX together for a time but I realized that FSX has finally come of age, and IS much better than FS9. I had not used FS9 for a long time, so last night took the big step.....

My FS9 install is full-house state of the art, and my FSX is pretty much stock.
My computer was built to handle FSX.
It's no contest, FSX is a ghastly bleak hi-res place in comparision, I hardly ever fire it up, except to do arcade-style amusements in Accelerator.
My dilemma is: should I start stacking FSX with addons? All they do is eat performance - my Budapest scenery is stunning in FS9, but gives 4 (yes, 4) FPS in FSX.
Reduce the settings? Ah, I didn't install FSX hi-res so I could run it lo-res...
So FS9 has a bit of life in it yet, and there's so much I haven't done there yet, so much left to do...
I may entirely skip this latest edition of FS, I don't feel in any way left behind.
Of course, different folks have diiferent simming needs - I can see someone moving from an essentially stock FS9 to FSX, especially if they do IFR or multiplayer by preference.
Be interesting to hear what kind of flying folks do, who've moved to FSX.

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:06 pm
by Ian Warren
:hesaid: all the above and , lot of dollars spent on FS9 addons so it stays for the moment , YIP, they both have good points and there bad . Some may have other games , Flightsim maybe way down on the list for many users , myself, i gave away many/all combat sims or games , fact sitting on the self , dust collectors . Example for keeping FS9 - Cloud9 produced a Phantom(F4) , this is one reason i still have FS9 installed - it is brilliant , i guess it depends on your interest in the history , the aircraft type the chance to fly it and possibly to view a good airport or as real as it can be , This is the only difference between FS9 and FSX .

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:26 pm
by AlisterC
I would be too Charl.. I'd be especially keen to know who flies online with X :D

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:33 pm
by Bazza
I too consider I have an investment in my FS9 - most of my time is spent flying NZ and the work of members of this forum has made this exceptional. :clap:

As a matter of interest, what does FSX give in the way of NZ sceneries ? I always remember back to early FS9 days, before Mesh etc., when things were so bad that the Mount at Mt Maunganui was a flat plateau covered in buildings. I couldn't go back to that standard again... :angry:

Through a mixture of laziness and being happy with what I've got, I'm staying put.

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:10 pm
by Ian Warren
Albatross wrote:
QUOTE (Albatross @ May 3 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would be too Charl.. I'd be especially keen to know who flies online with X :D

Good plan Alister ! to get all operating ALPHASIM Harvards a go with online FSX

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 11:07 am
by creator2003
Im fully X now fs2004 is only now a porting tool ,everything i want in a sim is now in X,my NZ looks good to me and not much different to fs9 ,i only multiplay my sim anyway and there are lots of ppls out there to sim with ..
i still build for both at the moment but i refuse to place fs9 objects now .
lowering your standards in fsx is not a bad thing ,the standards are about the same to me as a good fs9 install ,the trees are 10 fold ,buildings have better textures ,i know the brown thing is a hassle but that will yet again be fixed
ive ported over most of all my fs9 aircraft and addons ...
i do hope more move on to the simX so they can enjoy all the new Fsx addons to come to NZ
It does look like many if not all the designers have moved on or are ..

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 5:14 pm
by happytraveller
But how many people have gone all the way and deleted FS9???

smooth landings (in FSX or FS9)

PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:18 pm
by FlyingKiwi
Well, I haven't deleted it, but I haven't used it for over a year either.

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:27 pm
by Zöltuger
5 reasons to switch to FSX:

1. It runs well on modern hardware
I get a consistant 45fps (which is what I lock my frames at), drops to low 20's around airports. And that's with sliders up full. You could buy my CPU, graphics card, motherboard and memory for less than $1200.
2. Lighting and texture effects
The bump-mapping and specular lighting and texture effects are amazing, and you don't need hundreds of dollars of add-ons to make it look good - I took this screenshot and I have no add-ons (apart from the repaint).

3. Online play
I don't have to lock my frames to play online - either as a pilot or a controller, and without having to join a network. And I can fly with a co-pilot too.
4. Most add-ons now have an FSX patch
So you can take your favourite FS9 aircraft or scenery package and run it in X
5. Missions
There are a lot of well constructed and realistic missions, both default and 3rd party. Tthe chopper missions are a great challenge with the winch (it's fun even for a fixed wing fan like myself).
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