took a look at the orion,...filled it up to the gills with gas,..and took off from NZWP runway 21 at approx 135 kts with a bit of nose up trim and flaps set to approach (2 clicks). what wheather are you flying in ?...
Fair weather...
I just tried taking off on the settings you suggested (2 clicks is 30 deg flaps?). Just managed to get of the runway 33 at NZOH at 175 kts
I must add the stick is full back.... after I'm airborne if i centre the stick it just drops like a stone. I've taken a short video take I'll post later so you can see what it's doing.
(confused?)

Both are awesome!!!!