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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:22 am
by Njbb1995
Is there any notable differnce between the Texan and the almighty Harvard?

Thanks
Nick

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:05 pm
by Ian Warren
There is no real difference between the models other than equipment (engines ,radios and fittings) the NA-16 is a AT6 , Texan , Harvard , SNJ , Yales , Wirraway , so many variants of each type but all a Havard/Texan .

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:57 pm
by Njbb1995
cool thanks. So if I download a texan it will be the same as a harvard?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:59 pm
by Charl
Small differences, maybe the prop spinner, exhaust...the airframe is identical

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:35 pm
by K5054NZ
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Aug 2 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yales , Wirraway , so many variants of each type but all a Havard/Texan .

Not quite true! There's certainly more than just equipment that makes a T-6 different to a Yale or Wirraway......

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:59 pm
by Ian Warren
K5054NZ wrote:
QUOTE (K5054NZ @ Aug 2 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not quite true! There's certainly more than just equipment that makes a T-6 different to a Yale or Wirraway......

Yale or Wirraway are a build from the NA16 model , Wirraway boast a lot of Harvard 1 with fabric covered lower fuse , with round wingtips and suited with weapon hardpoint and wiring -rear firing gun , further mods a 3 blade prop .. this was concept then moved further mod to build the Boomerang prototype so in a way could be add to the list , the Yale built by the Canadian firm Noorduyn all really the Texan/Harvard .

.. the USAF modified the AT6 so much was it a Texan ... and there was even a cheaper fighter along the the lines the North American P-64 , very close to the CA-12 Boomerang.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:50 am
by K5054NZ
biggrin.gif Ian, NZFF's own Wikipedia! Cheers for that dude........about time someone released a new Wirraway, mmm

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:40 pm
by Naki
My understanding is that the Harvard is the British/Commonwealth name for the Texan. Most RAF training aircraft are named after universities or something to do with learning (ie Oxford, Prentice, Tutor, Yale etc etc) - Harvard = American University.

One other Harvard derivative (via Wirraway) is the CAC Ceres - a topdresser built in Aussie

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:19 pm
by Toz
If anyone is interested in flying this beautiful bird......

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?Search...de=0&Page=3

Made with some expert help ( NZ Warbirds Assoc ) and a couple of very good developers.
It is a full package including best sound and panel ( modified ) that I could source.
No, it wont hammerhead unless reality settings are turned up full, and even then you have to do it correctly.

The ex Red Checkers leader I occasionall go trout hunting with believes the Harvard IIa would have easily pulled a 3 blade prop ( a la Wirraway ).
I believe ( personal opinion ) that they were made the way they were made to teach good engine / prop / aircraft management.

I made this thing to teach the VA guys I blob about with to do close formation work. This requires an AGREED power / prop setting , and a leader who can communicate well, and fly smoothe as silk. Its great fun

Cheers, TOZ

PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:32 pm
by Naki
Toz wrote:
QUOTE (Toz @ Aug 3 2008, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If anyone is interested in flying this beautiful bird......

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?Search...de=0&Page=3

Made with some expert help ( NZ Warbirds Assoc ) and a couple of very good developers.
It is a full package including best sound and panel ( modified ) that I could source.
No, it wont hammerhead unless reality settings are turned up full, and even then you have to do it correctly.

The ex Red Checkers leader I occasionall go trout hunting with believes the Harvard IIa would have easily pulled a 3 blade prop ( a la Wirraway ).
I believe ( personal opinion ) that they were made the way they were made to teach good engine / prop / aircraft management.

I made this thing to teach the VA guys I blob about with to do close formation work. This requires an AGREED power / prop setting , and a leader who can communicate well, and fly smoothe as silk. Its great fun

Cheers, TOZ


Hi Toz

Yes I agree it is good - theres plenty of NZ repaints (some done by the members here) and plenty of threads about it here on NZFF.

Cheers

Paul