NZFF

As mentioned elsewhere we need volunteers to take over as I'm resigning. Please PM me or Robin. I get the feeling here that I'm not doing the best job as my interpretation of the rules are different then most others here (fyi my real job has a strong legal aspect and I deal with legal interpretations of clauses every day). I should resign in any case for someone with more time on their hands.

You will need to be a diplomatic person that can deal with all sorts, with thick skin and walk the tight ropes that occur at times but largely this place runs itself....apart from the screenshot comp part and when a crises hits the fan ..and you will be largely unthanked and criticised no matter what decision you make.

It has been a pleasure having you on as admin, Paul. Thanks for your contribution.

I'll add my resignation here, as I'm in a similar position, wanting to pass the admin job onto someone else, but not being able to find any takers. This is the ideal time right now, though, with a number of members fired up and calling for change. So those who have spoken up in the other thread, please don't lose that righteous anger over Easter, and put your names forward next week. We'll be needing a lot of moderators as well, as most of our moderators are no longer active. I suspect that we'd want about 10 in total, counting three administrators. Once things settle down, I will give Doug's suspension some thought, as he might want to be involved in the process of choosing a new team.

Once we have at least one new administrator, I'd ask that the forum 'owner' (as shown inthe DNS details for NZFF) is changed out of my name, but I'll help with this process. I'm sure that Paul and I can offer all the help a new team needs to get things up to speed.

Bump.... The whinging continues but not one Volunteer for Admin or moderating!

I guess everybody would prefer to whine and moan at me and Robin instead? Put some action into your words and become an administrator or moderator. The alternative is that there will be no forum as there won't be anybody to run it soon

I am willing to do my part for this forum, if needed. I for one would at least like to make sure that there is till the oppertunity for encouragement and growth that i got.

Same here , if required.
After surviving a stroke, two ex wives ...and living in a house with 4 permanently tired grumpy jet lagged females ...i think my skin may have attained the required thickness.
If for no other reason than to keep this place alive.

However , my public (forum) comments on the present problem ,may put me on the wrong side of the tracks for a position ...so im not sure.
I do think a clarification of the rules (in question) is needed , as i still feel we have "rolled over" to a certain extent.

The offer is there.

SP.

07moffata wrote:

QUOTE (07moffata @ Mar 28 2013,4:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am willing to do my part for this forum, if needed. I for one would at least like to make sure that there is till the oppertunity for encouragement and growth that i got.

"make sure that there is till the oppertunity for encouragement and growth that i got." that pretty much sums it up Moff ..... its a great place.

If you are running the show, methinks you would be free to set and interpret the rules as you see fit.

@splitpin


After surviving all that (especially sharing your home with 4 permanently tired grumpy jet lagged females) you deserve a medal and the respect of all

nzav8tor wrote:

QUOTE (nzav8tor @ Mar 28 2013,5:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

If you are running the show, methinks you would be free to set and interpret the rules as you see fit.

nzav8tor .... i really dont want to run it , just a little admin role in the background would suit me fine (maybe spell checking my own posts ) ..... mate if i ran it Airtruks would be compulsory on all screenshots

BobL wrote:

QUOTE (BobL @ Mar 28 2013,5:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Same here , if required.
After surviving a stroke, two ex wives ...and living in a house with 4 permanently tired grumpy jet lagged females ...i think my skin may have attained the required thickness.
If for no other reason than to keep this place alive.

However , my public (forum) comments on the present problem ,may put me on the wrong side of the tracks for a position ...so im not sure.
I do think a clarification of the rules (in question) is needed , as i still feel we have "rolled over" to a certain extent.

The offer is there.

SP.


After surviving all that (especially sharing your home with 4 permanently tired grumpy jet lagged females) you deserve a medal and the respect of all

Thanks Bob ..... its a cross i carry sometimes jet lag has its advantages ...eg: "may i borrow your credit card ,theres a sale on at captainsim ....fix you up later"

Ok great looks like I have at least 3 admins but I will need to sort out later as I'm moving house and Robin isn't around at the moment.. Thanks for those for putting your hands up!

Yeah consider my hand-up too lads. More than happy to help steer the mighty NZFF ship for its next voyage.

Im glad that many have there hands up for these roles and very worthy people too ,but i still feel that nothing should happen until Doug and Ian have the same chances to put there hands up as Doug is admin also and that new admin and a change of control should be a slow process of nominations of those who have put there hands up and a community vote ..

I think we have totally missed the point and this is a knee jerk reaction to criticism of Admin for the unjustified suspension of two well known members ,i hope to see the process community run and chosen with a slow deep breath and Doug & Ian reinstated ...

I'm aware that Doug needs to be part of this, all being taken care of.

toprob wrote:

QUOTE (toprob @ Mar 28 2013,7:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm aware that Doug needs to be part of this, all being taken care of.

Thank you Rob for reconsidering and reinstating me

toprob wrote:

QUOTE (toprob @ Mar 28 2013,7:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm aware that Doug needs to be part of this, all being taken care of.

Amen ... now you get well !

Welcome back Doug. Get well soon Rob.


Ade

I would also be willing to help out if needs be...

For those who aren't to sure about what goes into being an administrator moderator etc here's what it involves to keep a board running (from my experience on aviationcafe), and I hope it show's an insight to what they actually do behind the scenes (if this is inappropriate feel free to remove it).

1. Check to make sure the board is up to date, including any modificiations/plug-ins etc
2. Deal with any error's that may arise i.e sql error's, plug-in problems
3. Making sure that there is backup's of the forum database both virtual and in a secure location in case any problem's arise (restore to the most recent backup)
4. Making sure the Board License is valid
5. Constantly being on the look out for spam-bots/e-mail harvesters/scammer's, and dealing with them as soon a possible.
6. dealing with the site via ftp, running backups via the hosting control panel.


There's probably more but for now these are the most important ones I can think off.

edit... added number 6

Here's some info just to facilitate the process of installing a new admin team.

There is no 'proper' way to run the forum, in the past we've managed with 3 admin, and this has worked, but there are problems when one (or two) can't put the time into the job for any reason, such as work commitments, family, holidays, illness etc. As it is usually difficult to entice members to take the job, three has been ok, but really it could work better with more admin. I suggested four earlier, when we had four interested in the job, but at the moment we have five or more (including Doug) you might want to consider a team of five, and any more interest directed to moderator positions.

Technical work really needs to be done by administrators, as moderators don't have access to the back-end.

I think that some nominees here might be relieved to be given a nice simple moderator job, anyway.

I'm aware of one other interested member, who I'd ask to submit their interest here, as this thread is a simple, transparent way to go through the process.

How the process is decided is not set in stone, and certainly not up to me. Initially Naki and I just thought that anyone interested (subject to admin veto) could take the job, as and when they applied. This has always been an option, anyway. We sometimes have put out invitations to various members, but generally they don't accept.

For those with queries about the way the forum is run, rules etc, there is no 'charter' or description of what the forum is, how it is to be run, or the role of the admin, so there's nothing I can point you at for help. I've always been away that this would be a good thing to have, but it would take a huge amount of work to define.

Anyway, I'm ready to pull the switch as soon as I know what you all want. Just give me a list of admin, hopefully transparently selected via this thread, and I'll make it happen. Or give me one name who is happy and capable to do the rest of the job.

I have also been put forward by Doug for a moderator role. I agree Rob it is always good to have plenty of coverage.

Cheers

Deane

Il put my hand up for a moderator role as well,..I don't have the necessary time or website knowledge to do Admin ...

Cheers, Deane.

Just one more thing regarding my comment about posting here for transparency -- I won't be responding to PMs or emails regarding the new admins, only through this thread. This is partly because I don't want to be making decisions out of the forum eye, but also because of the limitations of the PM system -- the limited storage means that it can't be used to archive messages. This has always been a major weakness of the system, as there is no way to keep track of admin discussions, decisions etc when the PM system is used.
This is also why I discourage my customers from using the PM system here for Godzone support issues. I can keep track of emails and forum posts indefinitely, but PMs need to be cleared quite often. Wow, 45% used just this week...