NZFF

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:32 pm**

fsx recently started to suddenly hang and then crash to desktop. can occur at any time during flight. appears to occur mostly over new zealand. not limited to a particular area. i run a fairly new computer with win 7 and fsx acceleration.
scenery looks great and sim is performing well, until the problem suddenly appears. it does happen occasionally in other countries, but recently has been happening 1-2x per flight session in new zealand.

i am not sure whether the problem is actually due to vlc or to fsx itself. sometimes event viewer shows an error message (always fsx.exe and occasionally terrain.dll are given as the active files, but other times, no error message. mother board temperatures well controlled.

is it possible to inactivate or disable vlc in order to trouble shoot? is there a special procedure for uninstalling and then reinstalling? any other suggestions will be welcomed.

many thanks.

steve chavin

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:09 pm**

A thought , a reinstall VLC , over the top wont hurt any other apps: but maybe missing a file , had same thing whiles back , since no problems .

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:29 pm**

Do you have the UIAutomationCore.dll file in your main FSX folder? If not, see this: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/273341-heres-...hing-win-7-x64/

Posted: **Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:41 pm**

A lot of memory problems are caused by autogen, have you tried pulling the autogen setting back a notch?
To disable VLC temporarily, run the Config tool and turn off the autogen, then deactivate the VectorLandClass and VectorLandClass_DTM entries in your Scenery Library.

Posted: **Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:01 pm**

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 31 2011,2:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A thought , a reinstall VLC , over the top wont hurt any other apps: but maybe missing a file , had same thing whiles back , since no problems .

ian and all other respondents:

thanks for the suggestions. i have been experimenting for thepast few days. i have flown many flights, hundreds of miles and in a bunch of counries, including new zealand. i have consistently seen the hanging and subsequent CTD on nz flights (especially around napier, which i have used as my usual test area). but no haning or CTD anywhere else.

i tried ian's suggestion to reinsall vectorlandclass over the existing installation. this had no effect on the hanging up. i then tried disabling the vlc files using the disable button in scenery library. i did not do anything with the various other vlc or vlc related folders, such as library, vlc airports or specific airports. i did 2 test flights in and around napier, and with vlc folders disabled, ther were no hangups or CTD. finally, i uninstalled the main vector landclass program, using the uninstall function in start menu. then, i reinstalled vector landclass using a copy of the original full installer v1.0, followed by installation of the version 1.01 update. all of this went well, the vlc scenery looked great, but the ctd occurred within 2 minutes as i approached napier from hastings.

although i hate to say it, this seems pretty suggestive that there is a problem with my vector landclass scenery itself, and that this problem developed only many months after my initial installation. i am not sure how to proceed from here. i prefer not to try to mess around with the 'uiautomation.dll'. i also did not try to reduce the amount of autogen i use because i am flying everywhere else with the slider at high to very high.

i would be grateful for any suggestions on how to troubleshoot the cause of the problem. would it be useful to download a new installer from robin? i will be very unhappy if i cannot use the wonderful vector landclass scenery, as i have done for the last year or so.

steve chavin

Posted: **Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:13 pm**

chavins wrote:
QUOTE (chavins @ Nov 3 2011,7:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i would be grateful for any suggestions on how to troubleshoot the cause of the problem. would it be useful to download a new installer from robin? i will be very unhappy if i cannot use the wonderful vector landclass scenery, as i have done for the last year or so.

Sorry, if there is a problem with your installer, it wouldn't install at all.

Posted: **Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:08 pm**

check your scenery /world folder to see if you have a double up on a afcad for Napier, this would normally /usually crash like you have explained ,i will start testing in your area and see if i find the same error though i was working over there sometime ago with VLC installed before update 1.01 and got nothing but good performance over the two weeks i was working on a project ,do you use NZ AI traffic addons ,these had afcads which play with the system too like explained above and are in the readme to be put in the scenery world folder ,if you are not aware of things going there you may not have checked there yet ..
all the best im sure we will work it out for you and the fix will be around the corner ,there are some limits to how much we can be of help with each pc being personal setup ,i know this is a hassle and i feel for you so lets see if the above helps ..

Posted: **Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:14 pm**

After reading this all over again there may be a stronger case this may be a install of NZAI project which has a afcads in 2004 format for alot of NZ airports which may be the problem ,if you had it installed and unactived it the afacd files still sit in world scenery folder active competing for the chance to show in FSX which cause the crash maybe ?

Posted: **Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:40 pm**

Hi Steve
Are there any 'artifacts' before the crashes that you have noticed (i.e. screen flickering etc)?
Is your case/laptop well cooled and free from dust build up? If you run a CPU/GPU temperature logging software, do these show any rise in temps?
Have you recently updated your graphics card drivers? Alternatively, when was the last time you did update?

And as mentioned by mike- What other scenery are you running around Napier?

Posted: **Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:21 am**

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Nov 8 2011,10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Steve
Are there any 'artifacts' before the crashes that you have noticed (i.e. screen flickering etc)?
Is your case/laptop well cooled and free from dust build up? If you run a CPU/GPU temperature logging software, do these show any rise in temps?
Have you recently updated your graphics card drivers? Alternatively, when was the last time you did update?

And as mentioned by mike- What other scenery are you running around Napier?

hi everyone.

thanks for the support and all of the questions. i can answer a few of the questions, but most of the answers will require several days of investigation.

firstly, i am not sure whether the problem is specific to the napier area. this happened to be the location where the hangup finally drove me to desperate measures, although the crashes were occurring elswhere on both north and south islands. at that time i had mike's napier scenery installed and checked for duplicate napier afcads (negative), but subsequently uninstalled his napier scenery without resolution of the crashes. so the napier addon was not the cause, although some other problem around napier has not been ruled out. i will try a bunch of short flights in several different areas of both islands and let you know the results. last night, i realised that i had ruled out the vlc scenery as the primary cause of the problem, but i had not looked closely at other new zealand sceneries i have used. most of the ones i have installed are designed specifically for vlc, but i will systematically disable all possible suspects to see if the crash pattern changes.

my computer has win 7 running an i7 920 processor and a gtx 275 graphics card. i am overclocked to 4.0 ghz and the sim runs beautifully with high detail aircraft, scenery and all sliders way over to the right. the computer is cooled with a noctua unit, and the temp at rest is around 48-50 degrees C; when fsx is running, it rises to 52-60 degrees C but never higher.

the crashes can occur at any time in a flight, sometimes within the first couple of minutes, but other times not for aan hour or so. the first sign of a problem is the scenery starts to do momentary halts (usually with fps dropping from its usual 30fps max down to 5-10fps). this jumpiness might continue for 1-2 minutes but usually less. the scenery itself remains as sharply focussed as before, and i cannot appreciate any flickering. eventually the sound and the cursor freeze. fsx usually crashes to desktop within a minute or so, sometimes preceded by one of microsoft's ever-helpful messages that a "serious problem has occurred and the application will shut down, and microsoft will notify me if it can figure out what the problem is". microsoft's sleuthing has not yet born any fruit. sometimes, i wait for fsx to crash (ever hopeful that it will not do so) but usually i hit control/alt/delete to end my misery and curtail my disappointment. event viewer/window logs/applications sometimes shows an error message implicating fsx.exe in addition to terrain.dll (or occasionally a different .dll file). about half the time, there is no error message related to the crash.

that's about all i can tell you at this time. sorry for the detail, but you never know what is relevant. i will proceed with my testing and get back to the forum with a more concise note. thanks again for the help, interest and encouragement. i will surely miss vector land class while flying over your beautiful islands.

steve chavin

Posted: **Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:02 am**

The naiper scenery was 2004 which i gave to snowman to place with his scenerys same with NZNP ,theses scenerys had afcads /object librarys / world alt files for flattens etc which maybe in that world scenery folder i mentioned ,anything which there are two files playing for the same space would cause issues or crashes ..

so check list C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Scenery\World\Scenery
in main FSX directory ,check that there is no other extra NZ__ .bgl files or ALT files that look NZ which are not VLC files this BGL is ok to be there NZMF_ADEX_VLC_ALT.BGL

next is the same place check for afcads with NZ__.bgl could be a whole heap or this file Traffic GNZLAP_REDUX.bgl which if not converted properly to FSX file could have some issues but manly the AI afcads which came with this pack id want you to check that they are not in there ..

Posted: **Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:17 am**

One other possible answer is the graphics card even as new as it is could be the problem even with the latest drivers , i had a PC in the shop after the council caused a power spike frying my very very expensive card , on putting a new card and testing in the shop , the sim did similar jump/run/pause/run , found the brand card was a dud , that could be the answer .

Posted: **Fri Nov 04, 2011 10:24 am**

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Nov 8 2011,9:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One other possible answer is the graphics card even as new as it is could be the problem even with the latest drivers , i had a PC in the shop after the council caused a power spike frying my very very expensive card , on putting a new card and testing in the shop , the sim did similar jump/run/pause/run , found the brand card was a dud , that could be the answer .

hi to everyone. here are a couple of preliminary bits of info. first, about the graphics card. i would think a graphics card/driver issue would not be limited to a single geographic area like new zealand. nonetheless, my most recent nvidia driver was installed in the spring of 2011, and is only 2 driver releases behind the current nvidia driver. i felt that with the sim in general running so well, i would put off the work of updating the video drivers. i may have to reconsider this if a solution does not present itself.

i did a scan for duplicate afcads, and there were none detected for new zealand. i do have the gnzlap redux installed, but i did not use any of the fs9 afcads and i converted the traffic bgl to fsx format. in scenery/world/scenery, there are no other extra NZ__ .bgl files or ALT files that look NZ other than the ones from vlc.

more info after i do some flying.

steve chavin

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:22 am**

chavins wrote:
QUOTE (chavins @ Nov 8 2011,10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi to everyone. here are a couple of preliminary bits of info. first, about the graphics card. i would think a graphics card/driver issue would not be limited to a single geographic area like new zealand. nonetheless, my most recent nvidia driver was installed in the spring of 2011, and is only 2 driver releases behind the current nvidia driver. i felt that with the sim in general running so well, i would put off the work of updating the video drivers. i may have to reconsider this if a solution does not present itself.

i did a scan for duplicate afcads, and there were none detected for new zealand. i do have the gnzlap redux installed, but i did not use any of the fs9 afcads and i converted the traffic bgl to fsx format. in scenery/world/scenery, there are no other extra NZ__ .bgl files or ALT files that look NZ other than the ones from vlc.

more info after i do some flying.

steve chavin

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:56 am**

hi again:

more flights but the results are disappointing:

1. flight from nelson to christchurch, with alll vlc enabled/selected. 1 hour 30 min flight time with no problems of hanging or crashing.

2. flight from christchurch to dunedin; vlc set as in 1. sim started stuttering, then hanging, and rapidly crashed to desktop after about 5 minutes of flight. event viewer showed application error involving fsx.exe and terrain.dll.

3. both vlc folders disabled via scenery library. flight from christchurch to dunedin again. absolutely no problems.

4. both vlc folders enabled again. using vlc configurator, all 3 of the optional boxes (agn cutom library and default library) were unticked. repeated flight from christchurch to dunedin. fsx hung up and crashed to desktop after 5minutes of flight.

5. both vlc folders enabled again via scenery library. christchurch to dunedin again with much less interesting scenery but no hanging or crash to desktop.

it appears that whenever vlc is enabled, i get the hanging and ctd after a short flying time (the only exception was the first flight in the current series). there were no crashe samong al the other new zealand flights when vlc was disabled. there also were no flights in other geographical areas, even when vlc had not been disabled. it looks to me as if it is vlc or some component of it which is causing the problem over both north and south islands. i reviewed all my installed nz sceneries. most of them are made with vlc in mind or released on the vlc site. i did not record the installation dates, but my recollection is that vlc was working after most of the other scenery was installed.

i don't know where to go from here. i wonder whether something like ground environment x can be involved. i believe that some of the recent additions used textures which are shared by new zealand. the recent gex releases were for africa and the middle east and atlantic-pacific-tropics, both of which i have installed. the hangup problem preceded the tropics release , but i cannot recall whether it was there before middle east and africa. is there some way to analyse vlc to find which folder or files which might be causing the issue?

i would be most grateful for any inspiration or consolation with repect to my problem.

steve chavin

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:46 pm**

It may be of some help so here is the file listings that should be in the main VLC folders, Anything else in those folders will cause a clash if they are bgls for a same area.
FSX does not just load in the immediate areas that you fly in. If you go into overhead view and zoom out you will see a very large area around your aircraft of what FSX actually loads in data.

I had this issue a while back, turned out I had dragged a orphaned Rotorua file from somewhere into the vlc folder with out realizing. I was pulling my hair out for ages. Good luck.

Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VectorLandClass_DTM\Scenery

Code: Select all: DTM_20m_9247.bgl DTM_20m_9248.bgl DTM_20m_9344.bgl DTM_20m_9346.bgl DTM_20m_9347.bgl DTM_20m_9348.bgl DTM_20m_9444.bgl DTM_20m_9445.bgl DTM_20m_9446n.bgl DTM_20m_9446s.bgl DTM_20m_9447.bgl DTM_20m_9545.bgl DTM_20m_9546.bgl

Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VectorLandClass\Scenery

Code: Select all: CustomLibrary_9247.BGL customLibrary_9248.BGL CustomLibrary_9346.BGL customLibrary_9347.BGL customLibrary_9348.BGL CustomLibrary_9444.BGL customLibrary_9445.BGL customLibrary_9446.BGL customLibrary_9447.BGL customLibrary_9545.BGL customLibrary_9546.BGL cvx_Base_9247.BGL cvx_Base_9248.BGL cvx_Base_9344.BGL cvx_Base_9346.BGL cvx_Base_9347.BGL cvx_Base_9348.BGL cvx_Base_9444.BGL cvx_Base_9445.BGL cvx_Base_9446.BGL cvx_Base_9447.BGL cvx_Base_9545.BGL cvx_Base_9546.BGL cvx_Landclass_9247.BGL cvx_Landclass_9248.BGL cvx_Landclass_9344.BGL cvx_Landclass_9346.BGL cvx_Landclass_9347.BGL cvx_Landclass_9348.BGL cvx_Landclass_9444.BGL cvx_Landclass_9445.BGL cvx_Landclass_9446.BGL cvx_Landclass_9447.BGL cvx_Landclass_9545.BGL cvx_Landclass_9546.BGL cvx_Streams_9247.BGL cvx_Streams_9247.BGL cvx_Streams_9248.BGL cvx_Streams_9248.BGL cvx_Streams_9344.BGL cvx_Streams_9344.BGL cvx_Streams_9346.BGL cvx_Streams_9346.BGL cvx_Streams_9347.BGL cvx_Streams_9347.BGL cvx_Streams_9348.BGL cvx_Streams_9348.BGL cvx_Streams_9444.BGL cvx_Streams_9444.BGL cvx_Streams_9445.BGL cvx_Streams_9445.BGL cvx_Streams_9446.BGL cvx_Streams_9446.BGL cvx_Streams_9447.BGL cvx_Streams_9447.BGL cvx_Streams_9545.BGL cvx_Streams_9545.BGL cvx_Streams_9546.BGL cvx_Streams_9546.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9247.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9248.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9346.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9347.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9348.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9444.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9445.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9446.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9447.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9545.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9546.BGL EXX_9247.BGL EXX_9247_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9248.BGL EXX_9248_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9344.BGL EXX_9344_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9346.BGL EXX_9346_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9347.BGL EXX_9347_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9348.BGL EXX_9348_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9444.BGL EXX_9444_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9445.BGL EXX_9445_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9446.BGL EXX_9446_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9447.BGL EXX_9447_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9545.BGL EXX_9545_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9546.BGL EXX_9546_WaterExcl.BGL lclookup.bgl LightsMW_9248.BGL LightsMW_9347.BGL LightsMW_9348.BGL LightsMW_9444_.BGL LightsMW_9445.BGL LightsMW_9446.BGL LightsMW_9447.BGL LightsMW_9545.BGL LightsMW_9546.BGL LightsUrb_9248.BGL LightsUrb_9347.BGL LightsUrb_9348.BGL LightsUrb_9444.BGL LightsUrb_9445.BGL LightsUrb_9446.BGL LightsUrb_9447.BGL LightsUrb_9545.BGL LightsUrb_9546.BGL StandardLibrary_9247.BGL StandardLibrary_9248.BGL StandardLibrary_9346.BGL StandardLibrary_9347.BGL StandardLibrary_9348.BGL StandardLibrary_9444.BGL StandardLibrary_9445.BGL StandardLibrary_9446.BGL StandardLibrary_9447.BGL StandardLibrary_9545.BGL StandardLibrary_9546.BGL VLC_Population.bgl VLC_Seasons.bgl VLC_WaterClass.bgl VLC_Z_Base_LC_1.bgl

Posted: **Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:34 pm**

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Nov 10 2011,5:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It may be of some help so here is the file listings that should be in the main VLC folders, Anything else in those folders will cause a clash if they are bgls for a same area.
FSX does not just load in the immediate areas that you fly in. If you go into overhead view and zoom out you will see a very large area around your aircraft of what FSX actually loads in data.

I had this issue a while back, turned out I had dragged a orphaned Rotorua file from somewhere into the vlc folder with out realizing. I was pulling my hair out for ages. Good luck.

Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VectorLandClass_DTM\Scenery
Code: Select all
DTM_20m_9247.bgl DTM_20m_9248.bgl DTM_20m_9344.bgl DTM_20m_9346.bgl DTM_20m_9347.bgl DTM_20m_9348.bgl DTM_20m_9444.bgl DTM_20m_9445.bgl DTM_20m_9446n.bgl DTM_20m_9446s.bgl DTM_20m_9447.bgl DTM_20m_9545.bgl DTM_20m_9546.bgl

Microsoft Flight Simulator X\VectorLandClass\Scenery
Code: Select all
CustomLibrary_9247.BGL customLibrary_9248.BGL CustomLibrary_9346.BGL customLibrary_9347.BGL customLibrary_9348.BGL CustomLibrary_9444.BGL customLibrary_9445.BGL customLibrary_9446.BGL customLibrary_9447.BGL customLibrary_9545.BGL customLibrary_9546.BGL cvx_Base_9247.BGL cvx_Base_9248.BGL cvx_Base_9344.BGL cvx_Base_9346.BGL cvx_Base_9347.BGL cvx_Base_9348.BGL cvx_Base_9444.BGL cvx_Base_9445.BGL cvx_Base_9446.BGL cvx_Base_9447.BGL cvx_Base_9545.BGL cvx_Base_9546.BGL cvx_Landclass_9247.BGL cvx_Landclass_9248.BGL cvx_Landclass_9344.BGL cvx_Landclass_9346.BGL cvx_Landclass_9347.BGL cvx_Landclass_9348.BGL cvx_Landclass_9444.BGL cvx_Landclass_9445.BGL cvx_Landclass_9446.BGL cvx_Landclass_9447.BGL cvx_Landclass_9545.BGL cvx_Landclass_9546.BGL cvx_Streams_9247.BGL cvx_Streams_9247.BGL cvx_Streams_9248.BGL cvx_Streams_9248.BGL cvx_Streams_9344.BGL cvx_Streams_9344.BGL cvx_Streams_9346.BGL cvx_Streams_9346.BGL cvx_Streams_9347.BGL cvx_Streams_9347.BGL cvx_Streams_9348.BGL cvx_Streams_9348.BGL cvx_Streams_9444.BGL cvx_Streams_9444.BGL cvx_Streams_9445.BGL cvx_Streams_9445.BGL cvx_Streams_9446.BGL cvx_Streams_9446.BGL cvx_Streams_9447.BGL cvx_Streams_9447.BGL cvx_Streams_9545.BGL cvx_Streams_9545.BGL cvx_Streams_9546.BGL cvx_Streams_9546.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9247.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9248.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9346.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9347.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9348.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9444.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9445.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9446.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9447.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9545.BGL cvx_UrbanRoads_9546.BGL EXX_9247.BGL EXX_9247_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9248.BGL EXX_9248_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9344.BGL EXX_9344_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9346.BGL EXX_9346_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9347.BGL EXX_9347_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9348.BGL EXX_9348_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9444.BGL EXX_9444_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9445.BGL EXX_9445_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9446.BGL EXX_9446_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9447.BGL EXX_9447_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9545.BGL EXX_9545_WaterExcl.BGL EXX_9546.BGL EXX_9546_WaterExcl.BGL lclookup.bgl LightsMW_9248.BGL LightsMW_9347.BGL LightsMW_9348.BGL LightsMW_9444_.BGL LightsMW_9445.BGL LightsMW_9446.BGL LightsMW_9447.BGL LightsMW_9545.BGL LightsMW_9546.BGL LightsUrb_9248.BGL LightsUrb_9347.BGL LightsUrb_9348.BGL LightsUrb_9444.BGL LightsUrb_9445.BGL LightsUrb_9446.BGL LightsUrb_9447.BGL LightsUrb_9545.BGL LightsUrb_9546.BGL StandardLibrary_9247.BGL StandardLibrary_9248.BGL StandardLibrary_9346.BGL StandardLibrary_9347.BGL StandardLibrary_9348.BGL StandardLibrary_9444.BGL StandardLibrary_9445.BGL StandardLibrary_9446.BGL StandardLibrary_9447.BGL StandardLibrary_9545.BGL StandardLibrary_9546.BGL VLC_Population.bgl VLC_Seasons.bgl VLC_WaterClass.bgl VLC_Z_Base_LC_1.bgl

rotodude:

thanks for the very useful information. i have compared my vlc folder files against your lists. i cannot find any non vlc files in either of my folders. the dtm files are exactly the same in your folder compared to mine. however, there are 2 differences in the other folder. first, i do not have a copy of lclookup.bgl. second, i have only 1 copy of each cvx_Streams_xxx.bgl whilst you seem to have 2 copies of each cvx streams bgl. we each have exactly the same file names.

if it is necessary, where can i get a copy of the lclookup.bgl? should the duplicate cvx streams bgls be present?

steve chavin

Posted: **Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:08 am**

lclookup is an addon I have used as I have a different version in the main global folder, no issues for you there.
The repeat files was c#ckup of the dir print, there is only one of each...

Posted: **Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:02 pm**

Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Nov 10 2011,9:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
lclookup is an addon I have used as I have a different version in the main global folder, no issues for you there.
The repeat files was c#ckup of the dir print, there is only one of each...

pete:

many thanks for your suggestion. unfortunately, that still leaves my problem unresolved. i am wondering whether the error messages which implicate terrain.dll might be relevant. i have no idea what this .dll does, and not every crash has an accompanying error message, nor does every error message have a .dll file listed. i also camr across a thread in the ftx forum, where one specific file turned out to be causing a crash to desktop. has anyone come across the problem of specific files which might lead to a crash to desktop in vlc?

Posted: **Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:41 pm**

chavins wrote:
QUOTE (chavins @ Nov 7 2011,1:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
pete:

many thanks for your suggestion. unfortunately, that still leaves my problem unresolved. i am wondering whether the error messages which implicate terrain.dll might be relevant. i have no idea what this .dll does, and not every crash has an accompanying error message, nor does every error message have a .dll file listed. i also camr across a thread in the ftx forum, where one specific file turned out to be causing a crash to desktop. has anyone come across the problem of specific files which might lead to a crash to desktop in vlc?

Hi Steve just check to see if you have this file in your main Flight simulator X folder
terrian.dll 885KB

NZFF

FSX Hangs Up And Ctd