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Postby raddragon » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:59 pm

I haven't decided whether to go with a 32bit or 64bit OS. I am probably swaying to 32bit (compatibility for some older software) which would make an additional 4gb redundant. Just for the record, I have $1500+ in FS9 addons, and I'm not planning to ditch them anytime soon. FSX is something I want to ocassionally play. I have gone with DDR3 1600 memory. All the parts from Computerlounge.

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AMD & ATI do play together better, but as much as anything it will be the chipset on your motherboard. Since you're using an AMD CPU, the chipset on the mobo will be suited to AMD, but shouldn't unduly hamper the operation of the nVidia card. Ideally, of course, one would want an nVidia chipset on the mobo. I've not had spare money to be able to try combos of motherboard / CPUs / video cards, so it's very hard to say if you'll notice any impact. What speed of RAM have you decided on? Is there a specific reason (other than possibly cost) that you're going with 4GB instead of 8GB?
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:59 pm

raddragon , i'll be scared to start totaling addons , and many dated and still all work , i'm running a W7 -64 bit , run all FS9 addons without a prob , and FSX again , Flightsim i think only supports 32 bit , least going 64 gives you an option later on .
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Postby raddragon » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:08 pm

Yeah, the cost builds up quickly. Reviewing the collection, I'm beginning to think 1500 was a conservative estimate. I think I will install a 64bit os after all, but will stick with the 4gb of ram as 8gb seems overkill for FS9.

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raddragon , i'll be scared to start totaling addons , and many dated and still all work , i'm running a W7 -64 bit , run all FS9 addons without a prob , and FSX again , Flightsim i think only supports 32 bit , least going 64 gives you an option later on .
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Postby tdale » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:32 pm

[quote name='IslandBoy77' date='Oct 3 2010, 02:19 PM' post='8267989']
Uh, who's 'NickN'?

NickN or Nick Needham runs GEX, and is a well known authority on FSX config, he was actually on here recently when there was a landclass released that contained copyright textures. NickN does not just provide excellent config help, but he is very technically minded

See this http://www.simforums.com/forums/nhancer-fo...topic34873.html

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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:49 pm

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. I think I will install a 64bit os after all, but will stick with the 4gb of ram as 8gb seems overkill for FS9.

I would go to the 8gb , not much more expensive
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:44 am

tdale wrote:
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NickN or Nick Needham runs GEX, and is a well known authority on FSX config, he was actually on here recently when there was a landclass released that contained copyright textures. NickN does not just provide excellent config help, but he is very technically minded

See this http://www.simforums.com/forums/nhancer-fo...topic34873.html

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Oh, ok. Ta.
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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:39 pm

Well, I got my rig all set up, but, I am having a lot of trouble with config. It is blurring like hell and no matter what i do I cannot get it looking smooth. In the FS9 menu (the create flight menu), when the plane rotates, the edges look horrible and are jagged. Any ideas?

I went with the phenom 965, 4gbs of ram and the GTX 460. I'm not familiar with Nvidia hardware, and it looks like I've misses the AA settings or something.

Anyone able to guide me in the right direction? Anyone able to post some good FS9 config tweaks for this card?
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:13 pm

Start FS9 , when running , press 'ALT' key - a menu drag down will display - Click - go to 'Options' drag down to settings , go to Display , you can adjust Scenery - Aircraft -Weather -Hardware
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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Hi Ian

Have done that and it still looks horrible. The big problem is the edges, they are jagged in the textures and the edges of planes are jagged too (not sharp edges).

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Start FS9 , when running , press 'ALT' key - a menu drag down will display - Click - go to 'Options' drag down to settings , go to Display , you can adjust Scenery - Aircraft -Weather -Hardware
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:27 pm

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Hi Ian

Have done that and it still looks horrible. The big problem is the edges, they are jagged in the textures and the edges of planes are jagged too (not sharp edges).

I know where the settings for that are on ATI... cool.gif Presumably you have the ansiotropic & antialiasing switched on inside FS9?
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:29 pm

Primary is the Hardware - go to the Available display resolution , im running 1920-1200X32 , Mip mapping 5 .. hardware render lights 7 .. Flitering Trilinear
tick all the box's above

In Aircraft - Ultra High, tick the three box,s .

From here try that smile.gif
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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:45 pm

Hi Ian

Thanks for your help. Still having no luck, the edges are still jagged and I checked the settings in the Nvidia control panel and they had AA and AF set to high values.

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Primary is the Hardware - go to the Available display resolution , im running 1920-1200X32 , Mip mapping 5 .. hardware render lights 7 .. Flitering Trilinear
tick all the box's above

In Aircraft - Ultra High, tick the three box,s .

From here try that smile.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:11 pm

In the Settings -Display HARDWARE , dose it the Device name show ? - Drag all sliders to the 'MAX' save settings then reboot
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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:20 pm

Well, I've been bashing my head against the wall for 3 hours now, and suffice to say disappointment is beginning to take hold. I am getting video performance equivelent to the ATI X1950pro I replaced, and i can't quite seem to get smoothness on any edges in FS2004. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a driver issue? DirectX issue. I believe it installed directX11 and I have the latest Nvidia drivers from their site. Could this be an issue?

I'm running a Phenom X4 965, 4gbs ram, EVGA GTX460 1GB EE Superclocked, windows 7 64bit. I have done some FS9 tweaks also.

So far i have FS9 installed and patched to 9.1, Real NZ FS2004 collection and Level D 767 installed. According to the Nvidia control panel, i have:
AA 16x
AF 32x
AA transperancy 8x supersample
max prerendered frames 8
texture filtering - quality
texture filtering - trilinear optimisation on
threaded optimisation - on
Triple Buffering - on

Any help would be great.
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:27 pm

Got it , your running driver , revert back to DX-9.0 C very sure its a DirectX Driver issue .
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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:34 pm

Im running Nvidia driver 8.17.12.5896. Just installing DX9 C

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Got it , your running driver , revert back to DX-9.0 C very sure its a DirectX Driver issue .
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Postby Rotordude » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:33 pm

raddragon, lets start fresh.

Open the NV cpl and select "Manage 3D settings" select the global tab and set the restore button. Only stting at the moment in that panel you may want to change is the Texture Filtering - Quality to Quality apply it and leave everything else alone.

Go into the Program settings tab and select FS9 from the drop down menu, if it's not there add it, hit the restore button there as well and apply the change.
Everything should be at application controlled default.
Close the cpl.

Run FS9, go into the settings - display - hardware tab, and make sure you have your display device selected, your desired resolution which should be equivalent to your desktop.

Target frame rate = set to what ever bragging rights you want, or 30 smile.gif

Render to Texture - ticked
Transform and Lighting - ticked
Anti Aliasing - ticked
Filtering to Trillinier or anisotropic
Mipmapping - 4
Hardware rendered lights - 6

Global texture - massive

You scenery aircraft and weather tabs, ramp them up to suit your taste.

You should be good to fly.

The issues you are having are human error, the 460 is a badass card so take the disappointment out of the equation and cast it aside.

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Postby raddragon » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:06 pm

Hey Rotordude, thank you so much. It's looking very good, my eyes lit up (reminded me of the first time i saw a DC10) as soon as it loaded. Now the only thing I need to figure out is why the scenery tab isnt working properly. When I select Add area it doesn't work and just enters the next level of file structure. So until i can figure that out, I'm stuck with default scenery.

Thank you so much for your help.

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QUOTE (Rotordude @ Oct 7 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
raddragon, lets start fresh.

Open the NV cpl and select "Manage 3D settings" select the global tab and set the restore button. Only stting at the moment in that panel you may want to change is the Texture Filtering - Quality to Quality apply it and leave everything else alone.

Go into the Program settings tab and select FS9 from the drop down menu, if it's not there add it, hit the restore button there as well and apply the change.
Everything should be at application controlled default.
Close the cpl.

Run FS9, go into the settings - display - hardware tab, and make sure you have your display device selected, your desired resolution which should be equivalent to your desktop.

Target frame rate = set to what ever bragging rights you want, or 30 smile.gif

Render to Texture - ticked
Transform and Lighting - ticked
Anti Aliasing - ticked
Filtering to Trillinier or anisotropic
Mipmapping - 4
Hardware rendered lights - 6

Global texture - massive

You scenery aircraft and weather tabs, ramp them up to suit your taste.

You should be good to fly.

The issues you are having are human error, the 460 is a badass card so take the disappointment out of the equation and cast it aside.

Good luck smile.gif
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Postby Rotordude » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:42 pm

You are very welcome, happy to help smile.gif

I had that issue when I ran FSX with win7 64 (did not like it) when you get to the next folder structure window, click in it (not on a folder) just in the empty space.

you need to click on the scenery folder, click add, it will go into the next layer, then right click anywhere in the white area of the folder you should be good to go.

It's been months since I ran Win7 so memory is a bit vague.
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Postby cowpatz » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:29 am

It is a well known issue with Win7

See here

Also make sure you have Anti alias selected off in FS9 display settings. Just use the graphics cards settings.
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