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Postby flyboycjs » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:16 am

Hi guys

Im getting a new computer for the NGX spending about $6000.00 so any feed back would be great. These are the specs.

CPUIntel Core i7 Extreme Edition 980X 3.33GHz Processor Socket MAINBOARDAsus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLANMEMORYKingston Hyper X 12GB 2000MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 3) XMP Tall HSCD-ROMAsus BC-08B1LT Blu-ray Reader + DVDRW Combo Drive SATA Black Retail Box HDDOCZ Vertex2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5" Bracket Included . 3 Years Warranty (Max Write up to 275MB/s )VIDEOEVGA GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5 ;797Mhz /4050mhz; DirectX 11;Dual DVI + HDMI 1.4a ; OpenGL 4.1 support ;OSMicrosoft Windows 7 Home 64bit CASEZalman MS1000 Black Mid Tower PC Case, NO PSU, Drive bays: 4 External Drive Bays HARDWAREAntec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS BronzeHARDWAREISGC-fan 12mmOTHERSThermaltake Jing

Should i change anything.

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Craig
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intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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Postby IslandBoy77 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:13 pm

Wow - wish my customers would spend that sort of dosh through me! ohmy.gif

All looks fine except it looks like you've only got one hard drive (SSD) in there. You're going to want to have a standard drive in there as well - remember SSDs have a very finite life, and if you game a lot, you'll wear it out in short order. I'd go with a couple of drives actually, since you have the money to spend: put in a WD Black 1TB 64MB Cache as your "data" drive: just put pics & stuff you don't want to lose on there. Put in a 450GB or 600GB WD Raptor drive as your system drive, with all apps except FSX on it. Put FSX and all add-ons on the SSD ONLY. Your best performance from FSX is off it's own drive, in this case the fastest one being the SSD. This will also lengthen the life of your SSD as it will only being doing FSX stuff, not "the whole shooting box".

I'd love to see what this beast can do when it's up and running: poss full HD with all sliders maxed, REX & other goodies included? Should be able to stomp thru the likes of Crysis nicely @ full noise as well. Wouldn't like to pay your power bill at the end of a weekend of gaming, though! laugh.gif
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Postby flyboycjs » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:27 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Dec 9 2010, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow - wish my customers would spend that sort of dosh through me! ohmy.gif

All looks fine except it looks like you've only got one hard drive (SSD) in there. You're going to want to have a standard drive in there as well - remember SSDs have a very finite life, and if you game a lot, you'll wear it out in short order. I'd go with a couple of drives actually, since you have the money to spend: put in a WD Black 1TB 64MB Cache as your "data" drive: just put pics & stuff you don't want to lose on there. Put in a 450GB or 600GB WD Raptor drive as your system drive, with all apps except FSX on it. Put FSX and all add-ons on the SSD ONLY. Your best performance from FSX is off it's own drive, in this case the fastest one being the SSD. This will also lengthen the life of your SSD as it will only being doing FSX stuff, not "the whole shooting box".

I'd love to see what this beast can do when it's up and running: poss full HD with all sliders maxed, REX & other goodies included? Should be able to stomp thru the likes of Crysis nicely @ full noise as well. Wouldn't like to pay your power bill at the end of a weekend of gaming, though! laugh.gif



Give me a quote and see what we can do.
Craig

intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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Postby flyboycjs » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:28 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Dec 9 2010, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow - wish my customers would spend that sort of dosh through me! ohmy.gif

All looks fine except it looks like you've only got one hard drive (SSD) in there. You're going to want to have a standard drive in there as well - remember SSDs have a very finite life, and if you game a lot, you'll wear it out in short order. I'd go with a couple of drives actually, since you have the money to spend: put in a WD Black 1TB 64MB Cache as your "data" drive: just put pics & stuff you don't want to lose on there. Put in a 450GB or 600GB WD Raptor drive as your system drive, with all apps except FSX on it. Put FSX and all add-ons on the SSD ONLY. Your best performance from FSX is off it's own drive, in this case the fastest one being the SSD. This will also lengthen the life of your SSD as it will only being doing FSX stuff, not "the whole shooting box".

I'd love to see what this beast can do when it's up and running: poss full HD with all sliders maxed, REX & other goodies included? Should be able to stomp thru the likes of Crysis nicely @ full noise as well. Wouldn't like to pay your power bill at the end of a weekend of gaming, though! laugh.gif



We are looking at putting 2 ssd 90 gig drives in raid 0 for performance. As for the cooling thats covered by the thermaltake Jing for the cpu and 6 120 mm isgc fans for the case.
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intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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Postby nzav8tor » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:59 pm

You could get the same level of performance for FSX for $3k I reckon! Go hard though, if you have the cash to spend, may as well...
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Postby dbcunnz » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:03 pm

flyboycjs wrote:
QUOTE (flyboycjs @ Dec 9 2010, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We are looking at putting 2 ssd 90 gig drives in raid 0 for performance. As for the cooling thats covered by the thermaltake Jing for the cpu and 6 120 mm isgc fans for the case.

RAID 0 striping was specifically invented to work around the throughput bottlenecks of the slow-spinning, slow-acting drives of the day. But today's top-notch, 10,000 RPM SATA drives are screamingly fast. With enormous throughput already available from a single drive, a RAID 0 setup really adds nothing to a desktop system except needless complexity.

There are a few special cases — especially in mission-critical server setups — where some varieties of RAID can provide highly effective fault tolerance and data redundancy. But, again, I think RAID is needless overkill on most desktop systems.
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Postby IslandBoy77 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:59 pm

With the way the text was laid out, I didn't realise the '2' meant 2 x SSDs - gotcha on that now, ta.

Yes, wouldn't do RAID, esp on SSDs. That's a great way to wear them out toute-suite. Besides which, as per a recent discussion about this, RAID on FSX will actually yield worse results. If you want speed (and some safety), I believe the multi-disk method I noted will give the best result.

BTW, I've sent you an email as per your PM and comment. smile.gif

With relation to the power bill joke, I wasn't thinking cooling, I was thinking how much electricity a beast like that will chew through in a "session". A 1kw PSU is going to run up near it's max with all the goodies in the case - that's a fan-heater in terms of dollars. That's all I was thinking: I'm sure the cooling aspect will be all sorted and fine. thumbup1.gif
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Postby flyboycjs » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:40 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Dec 9 2010, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With the way the text was laid out, I didn't realise the '2' meant 2 x SSDs - gotcha on that now, ta.

Yes, wouldn't do RAID, esp on SSDs. That's a great way to wear them out toute-suite. Besides which, as per a recent discussion about this, RAID on FSX will actually yield worse results. If you want speed (and some safety), I believe the multi-disk method I noted will give the best result.

BTW, I've sent you an email as per your PM and comment. smile.gif

With relation to the power bill joke, I wasn't thinking cooling, I was thinking how much electricity a beast like that will chew through in a "session". A 1kw PSU is going to run up near it's max with all the goodies in the case - that's a fan-heater in terms of dollars. That's all I was thinking: I'm sure the cooling aspect will be all sorted and fine. thumbup1.gif



Hi Peter,

Lets say i spend $5000.00 on the computer and the rest on a screen, could you please give me a spec sheet of what you would put in and an idea of a good large screen.
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intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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Postby IslandBoy77 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:42 pm

How large?
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Postby flyboycjs » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:35 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Dec 9 2010, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How large?



27"
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intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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Postby IslandBoy77 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:49 pm

Will the guys who quoted you the first system not quote you on a "lesser" one?
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Postby flyboycjs » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:56 am

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Dec 9 2010, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Will the guys who quoted you the first system not quote you on a "lesser" one?



Yes but he is not into FSX so does not know what would be the best to run FSX.
Craig

intel i7 1366 960
Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 ICH10R EATX Socket 1366 Triple Channel DDR3-2000 RAID USB3.0 SATA3 CrossFireX 3-Way SLI 1394 Intel GigaLAN
Kingston Hyper X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3
OCZ Vertex2 qty 2 90G Solid State Drive 2.5",High Performance , SATA II , 3.5
GeForce GTX580 Call of Duty: Black Ops Edition ; 1.5GB GDDR5
Antec "Quattro 1000" - 1000W TruePower Quattro, 80 PLUS Bronze
WD 1TB Black
Microsoft Windows 7 Home 64bit



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