Intalling Additional RAM?

The place to ask for help or solve each others technical issues and discuss hardware

Postby Redda03 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 pm

My basic set-up is as follows:

Windows XP
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 LGA775 Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 CPU 3.0GB
4GB DDR2 RAM
C Drive - 500GB Usable Hard Drive Capacity (65GB free with FS9 49GB and FSX 109GB)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 IGB Memory
700W PSU

Set up performs fine, though recently I have been getting the odd on-screen WARNING advising that my memory capacity is limited.... though these warnings don't seem to affect performance....I have just been ignoring them!!

My Motherboard supports 8GB DDR2 RAM so I am wondering if I should install a further 4GB's???

Bob R
url="http://www.VectorLandclass.co.nz/"]
Image[/url]
Redda03
Forum Addict
 
Topic author
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 205
Location: Waikanae Beach

Postby Redda03 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:15 pm

Finger trouble....should be under TECHNICAL ISSUES!!
url="http://www.VectorLandclass.co.nz/"]
Image[/url]
Redda03
Forum Addict
 
Topic author
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 205
Location: Waikanae Beach

Postby Ian Warren » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:36 pm

You will be wasting RAM since you are running XP , 4 GB is the maximum .
Last edited by Ian Warren on Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Ian Warren
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Fri May 05, 2006 5:23 pm
Posts: 41187
Location: AREA 51

Postby Chairman » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:50 pm

Is the problem that it's XP or that it's a 32bit OS ? Can't remember from when I first upgraded to win7 but I think win7 32bit has the same problem ? I ended up on win7 64bit which just works ...
The above post is in the public domain and is guaranteed by the manufacturer to contain no references to anything illegal or discussion of piracy, although this signature may contain traces of nuts.
Chairman
Sim-holic
 
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:07 pm
Posts: 912

Postby Adamski » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:05 pm

Chairman wrote:
QUOTE (Chairman @ Jul 7 2011,12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the problem that it's XP or that it's a 32bit OS ? Can't remember from when I first upgraded to win7 but I think win7 32bit has the same problem ? I ended up on win7 64bit which just works ...

@Redda Do you only get this in FS9/FSX? If so, it could be the dreaded OOM (Out Of Memory) error that's plagued FS for years. Do a Google for it. I used to get it all the time, then followed a set of tweaks that seemed to cure it.

I also upgraded to Win7 x64 ... and that will have helped as well. Looking at your specs, I think it'd be worth considering Win7. Buy another HD and put it on that. That way you can always go back to your XP system.

Whilst I've been *very* critical of MS operating systems in the past (particularly Win-Me and Vista), Win7 is a beaut. It just *works* - which is essentially what any decent o/s should do!
Last edited by Adamski on Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Adamski
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:22 am
Posts: 5029
Location: Birkenhead, Auckland

Postby Redda03 » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:43 pm

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jul 12 2011,2:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Redda Do you only get this in FS9/FSX? If so, it could be the dreaded OOM (Out Of Memory) error that's plagued FS for years. Do a Google for it. I used to get it all the time, then followed a set of tweaks that seemed to cure it.

I also upgraded to Win7 x64 ... and that will have helped as well. Looking at your specs, I think it'd be worth considering Win7. Buy another HD and put it on that. That way you can always go back to your XP system.

Whilst I've been *very* critical of MS operating systems in the past (particularly Win-Me and Vista), Win7 is a beaut. It just *works* - which is essentially what any decent o/s should do!


Thank's for your response.....yes the OOM error (which is what I have been experiencing) only happens in FS9 or FSX.....will let you know how I get on with the tweaks....and will give Win7 some thought!!

Cheers,

Bob R
url="http://www.VectorLandclass.co.nz/"]
Image[/url]
Redda03
Forum Addict
 
Topic author
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:31 pm
Posts: 205
Location: Waikanae Beach

Postby Adamski » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:57 pm

Redda03 wrote:
QUOTE (Redda03 @ Jul 7 2011,1:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for your response.....yes the OOM error (which is what I have been experiencing) only happens in FS9 or FSX.....will let you know how I get on with the tweaks....and will give Win7 some thought!!

fsl-texturefix-v11-zip
disappearing-textures-fix-for-fsx

There's also a good online .cfg editor around, but I appear to have lost the URL for that!
Image
User avatar
Adamski
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:22 am
Posts: 5029
Location: Birkenhead, Auckland

Postby Chairman » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:02 pm

The dreaded OOM error normally isn't about running out of actual memory, it's about running out of memory addresses. Everything that the computer knows about has to be filed somewhere in memory - that's every polygon and the physics that goes with it, every variable and every line of code, plus windows, plus whatever else you're running in the background ... Don't worry about how much room it takes up, just consider how many addresses are needed to keep track of it all.

Then throw a few complex add-ons into the mix, and some traffic, and some decent scenery with bits that move, the number of addresses needed goes through the roof.

While it's certainly nice to be able to make use of extra physical memory, the main benefit of moving to a 64 bit OS is that it can handle far far far more memory addresses. While adding more ram to a 64bit system never hurts you'll likely find that simply upgrading to win7 64bit solves the OOM crashes.
The above post is in the public domain and is guaranteed by the manufacturer to contain no references to anything illegal or discussion of piracy, although this signature may contain traces of nuts.
Chairman
Sim-holic
 
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:07 pm
Posts: 912

Postby Nzeddy » Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:09 pm

Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jul 7 2011,1:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's also a good online .cfg editor around, but I appear to have lost the URL for that!

This one? http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html
- Eddy
User avatar
Nzeddy
Sim-holic
 
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:52 pm
Posts: 866

Postby Adamski » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:12 pm

Nzeddy wrote:
QUOTE (Nzeddy @ Jul 7 2011,2:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Thank you, Sir! winkyy.gif

That - along with the FSL texture fixer could get you out of trouble till you upgrade to Win7x64 laugh.gif
Image
User avatar
Adamski
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:22 am
Posts: 5029
Location: Birkenhead, Auckland

Postby AlisterC » Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:49 pm

What does the FSL texture fix do? I've not heard of it before? smile.gif *google wasn't much help as to what it actually is/ does
Last edited by AlisterC on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
AlisterC
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:13 am
Posts: 2543
Location: Nelson, NZ

Postby deeknow » Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:46 pm

Nzeddy wrote:
QUOTE (Nzeddy @ Jul 7 2011,2:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yeah this is the one that also sorted my OOM errors, was plagued with them for weeks a few months back, ran that config tweaker and no worries since.
Deans repaints: http://www.deeknow.com/
X570 Mini-ITX m/b - Ryzen7 5700X3D (8c/16t) - RTX 2060-super - 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 - Win10 - P3Dv5.3
User avatar
deeknow
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:15 pm
Posts: 4448
Location: NZHN

Postby Adamski » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:00 pm

AlisterC wrote:
QUOTE (AlisterC @ Jul 7 2011,5:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What does the FSL texture fix do? I've not heard of it before? smile.gif *google wasn't much help as to what it actually is/ does

It's basically a GUI for applying Jesus Altuve's config tweaks:

fsl-texturefix-v11-zip
disappearing-textures-fix-for-fsx

It's really ggod!
Image
User avatar
Adamski
NZFF Pro
 
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:22 am
Posts: 5029
Location: Birkenhead, Auckland


Return to Technical Issues

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests