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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:22 pm
by spongebob206
Hi All

Finally have the Ok from the wife to upgrade my PC. This will be pretty much just for FSX.

What would you recommend. I have been looking at Trademe and there is so much on offer.

Intel i5 or i7, AMD? What is better. I know FSX eats the processor.

Ram? Video card?

Have a resonable budget, just have to justify it to her smile.gif

Your thought much appriciated.

Thanks

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:38 pm
by Ian Warren
I wont go through the SPEC's with you , first thing is keep your other PC for comm,s and your case Kids . winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:41 pm
by creator2003
I run a AMD's Six-Core Phenom II X6 1055T cheaper one to the 1090T
i have a lower end Radeon HD 5070 1 gig card though id like to upgrade to a better one which are now the same price as my one cost me
8 gig ram
win64 etc

i brought a cheap PC combo package with the core and MB off trademe ram , put it all in other Tower upgraded the graphic card and brought a new power pack 750 which only cost me at the time about $1400, the cost is much lower now for the same thing ,overall performance is way up there with its peers and putting a infinity mask on the cores in the FSX cfg makes it hummmmmmm.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:48 pm
by spongebob206
creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Oct 23 2011,2:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I run a AMD's Six-Core Phenom II X6 1055T cheaper one to the 1090T
i have a lower end Radeon HD 5070 1 gig card though id like to upgrade to a better one which are now the same price as my one cost me
8 gig ram
win64 etc

i brought a cheap PC combo package with the core and MB off trademe ram , put it all in other Tower upgraded the graphic card and brought a new power pack 750 which only cost me at the time about $1400, the cost is much lower now for the same thing ,overall performance is way up there with its peers and putting a infinity mask on the cores in the FSX cfg makes it hummmmmmm.



Thanks Mate, can't wait to see hamilton with a decent system smile.gif And taupo.

Cheers Mate

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 23 2011,2:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wont go through the SPEC's with you , first thing is keep your other PC for comm,s and your case Kids . winkyy.gif



Kids have already put dibs on my old machine smile.gif

Thanks Iam

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:31 pm
by Dontcopy
I would recommend getting an i5 2500k and a GTX560ti/570, should run FSX very well.
Have a play around on here: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/systems/sy...amp;systypeid=4
click "configure" to tailor the PC to your needs.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:38 pm
by Nzeddy
Intel, Nvidia and Windows7 64bit.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:15 pm
by ngatimozart
spongebob206 wrote:
QUOTE (spongebob206 @ Oct 23 2011,2:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi All

Finally have the Ok from the wife to upgrade my PC. This will be pretty much just for FSX.

What would you recommend. I have been looking at Trademe and there is so much on offer.

Intel i5 or i7, AMD? What is better. I know FSX eats the processor.

Ram? Video card?

Have a resonable budget, just have to justify it to her smile.gif

Your thought much appriciated.

Thanks


To get more bang for buck it is best to get a custom build. Buying a computer from the shop is ok but it is already out of date. Also with a custom build you only upgrade what you want so if you present monitor is fine keep it. My last two were / are custom builds and that means they are also upgradeable. This means that down the track you only need to upgrade you only have to buy say the CPU, video card and maybe RAM instead of having to buy a new tower. A lot cheaper option. Now I don't know where you live but shop around and if you source all or most of your parts from the one supplier they should do the build for nothing. My current build started life as a gamers tower two years ago. You need a good video card and a good cpu, plus a good measure of RAM. I have 8GB of DDR RAM where 4 would have been ok but it worked out cheaper in the long run getting 8 installed. I run Windows 7 64 bit. It is better for flight simming. I also do some video processing and photo work and it is better for that to. Good luck.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:00 pm
by spongebob206
ngatimozart wrote:
QUOTE (ngatimozart @ Oct 24 2011,4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To get more bang for buck it is best to get a custom build. Buying a computer from the shop is ok but it is already out of date. Also with a custom build you only upgrade what you want so if you present monitor is fine keep it. My last two were / are custom builds and that means they are also upgradeable. This means that down the track you only need to upgrade you only have to buy say the CPU, video card and maybe RAM instead of having to buy a new tower. A lot cheaper option. Now I don't know where you live but shop around and if you source all or most of your parts from the one supplier they should do the build for nothing. My current build started life as a gamers tower two years ago. You need a good video card and a good cpu, plus a good measure of RAM. I have 8GB of DDR RAM where 4 would have been ok but it worked out cheaper in the long run getting 8 installed. I run Windows 7 64 bit. It is better for flight simming. I also do some video processing and photo work and it is better for that to. Good luck.



Thanks mate

Will look into this smile.gif

PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:46 am
by Peppermint
Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Oct 23 2011,6:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would recommend getting an i5 2500k and a GTX560ti/570, should run FSX very well.



Would also recommend going this route. I bought a new system earlier in the year similar, i5 2600k, GTX570, 8GB ram....installed FSX, put the setting to the max and went for a flight over Auckland, FPS was hovering about 35-40 most of the time, turned bloom off and it was sitting at a steady 60 fps. I'm yet to even open up the .ini files and do some tweaking like I always done with FS9.


If you can spare a little cash, and have a rough idea how much room you will need for FSX, have a look into an SSD just for it. They've come down in price but are still very expensive, if you're installing alot of photoreal scenery or high resolution textures it's probably worth the investment. They don't really have a positive (or negative) impact on FPS like alot of people seem to make them out to do, but they will dramatically decrease the load time for FSX, mainly textures.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:20 pm
by spongebob206
What do you think?

2.6GHz AMD Phenom X6 1035T Processor
8GB DDR3 RAM
ATI HD5570 1GB Graphics
Win 7 64 Bit

or do I go I5?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:38 pm
by Nzeddy
Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Oct 23 2011,7:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would recommend getting an i5 2500k and a GTX560ti/570, should run FSX very well.


Nzeddy wrote:
QUOTE (Nzeddy @ Oct 23 2011,10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Intel, Nvidia and Windows7 64bit.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:41 pm
by dbcunnz
spongebob206 wrote:
QUOTE (spongebob206 @ Oct 29 2011,3:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do you think?

2.6GHz AMD Phenom X6 1035T Processor
8GB DDR3 RAM
ATI HD5570 1GB Graphics
Win 7 64 Bit

or do I go I5?

If you can afford it go to the AMD Phenom 3.20 GHz 1090T

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:26 pm
by Dontcopy
QUOTE
What do you think?

2.6GHz AMD Phenom X6 1035T Processor
8GB DDR3 RAM
ATI HD5570 1GB Graphics
Win 7 64 Bit

or do I go I5?[/quote]

Technically, the i5 is faster. I would go with the i5.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:44 pm
by deeknow
Hey SpongeBob. If your debating bang-for-buck with the whole AMD vs Intel, and NVidia vs ATI thing, then check out some benchmarking sites like the following for a rough guide:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

For example you'll see the "1035T" PassMark score is a fair chunk less than "1090T" that Doug mentions and for not a great deal more price wise. If you decide on Intel and the i5/2500 definately go for the K model over the standard 2500, has a better overclocking potential for one thing if you decide to tinker later on, and its not much more expensive (I've just built a rig using the 2500K and am very happy with it)

Win7 (64bit version) is the way to go for FSX, and you'll be sweet with 8GB of RAM. GPU wise there are SO many options out there its pretty hard to reccomend one card/chip-set, but the one you list there does seem to be lagging a little performance wise considering whats on offer nowadays, I'd put a little more money towards that if I were you.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:13 pm
by spongebob206
Thanks Guys

Have been looking around quite a bit, after all your awesome advice I am going for the build.

Not sure I7 or AMD x6 but I think either will be good.

Just was not sure of 4 or 6 core. If FSX hits the processor hard, thought 6 would be better.

Again thanks for all your help smile.gif

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:14 pm
by spongebob206
Am so keen and can't wait to fly, but will wait until i can build the ultimate smile.gif

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:10 am
by deeknow
Good stuff mate, and remember, take photos of the build process once you start, always fun to share later.
Oh and, I'd also reccomend holding onto that old machine if you can convince the kids its too old, buy them an iPad or something, the old PC will be real handy for other flight-sim duties when you have the new machine ninja.gif

PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:13 pm
by AndrewJamez
REmember, i5 over i7. the Hyper threading only costs more for no gain. My i5 2500k has been sitting on 4.2ghz with auto voltage no worries for a few months now. Happy as a duck in a pond.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:58 pm
by Dontcopy
QUOTE
Hyper threading only costs more for no gain.[/quote]
Debatable

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:35 pm
by spongebob206
Thanks all for your advice.

Still undecided over X6, I5 or I7.

Will see how i go, have some IT savy friends, but they are unsure too. Told me to ask the experts in the FSX community as every progamme/application requires different hardware.

Thanks all, much appreiciated.
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