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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:27 am
by Dontcopy
Gidday guys,
For those of you who are in need of a major PC upgrade and can afford it, Intel just released their new Extreme series range, 6 cores, 12 threads of absolute power.
It is roughly 15% faster than the old i7 990X with quad channel memory as-well as PCIE-3.0. It has also been overclocked to 4.2Ghz on stock voltage, so no doubt we will see some massive overclocks out of this thing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i...dge-e,3071.html

The CPU retails for $1500 on Computer lounge, but it runs on the new X79 chipset so a MB upgrade is also needed.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:09 pm
by Kelvinr
Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Nov 17 2011,9:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gidday guys,
For those of you who are in need of a major PC upgrade and can afford it, Intel just released their new Extreme series range, 6 cores, 12 threads of absolute power.
It is roughly 15% faster than the old i7 990X with quad channel memory as-well as PCIE-3.0. It has also been overclocked to 4.2Ghz on stock voltage, so no doubt we will see some massive overclocks out of this thing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i...dge-e,3071.html

The CPU retails for $1500 on Computer lounge, but it runs on the new X79 chipset so a MB upgrade is also needed.


Evening,

I have just spent the last 4 hours setting up my new rig. 3930k, 16GB ram Quad channel, GTX 570Ti Video Card, H80 Corsair liquid cooling. All running on x79 Sabertooth mobo. Haven't installed FSX yet but I have noticed a huge increase in speed from the 2600k just with loading times. I will report back with my FSX performance sometime over the weekend.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:35 pm
by Ian Warren
Now that,s going to be very interesting .. the FS result is the all will be waiting for , hope you got some really top end products to test it with .

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:24 am
by Dontcopy
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GTX 570Ti Video Card[/quote]
Do you mean 560Ti or am I missing something?

Can't wait to hear what its like!!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:08 am
by Kelvinr
Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Nov 19 2011,9:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you mean 560Ti or am I missing something?

Can't wait to hear what its like!!


hmm must have been daydreaming when I posted. GTX 570.

Anyway, I will be testing initially with no tweaked settings except boyote's fsx cfg tweaker. otherwise no fps tweakers. my first test will be in the NGX.

by the way, here is proof of 6 cores / 12 threads.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:25 am
by Nzeddy
Sweet. Looking forward. biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:25 pm
by Kelvinr
Ok,

initial results are in.

This test was completed at KLAX, one of the most demanding airports in FSX. Tests were completed with and without fps limiter. fsx.cfg was tweaked only using boyote's online tweak tool. NGX was used with sp1.

test 1 - KLAX - without fps limiter and all sliders at full, yes, even traffic. fps results were 20-25fps constant 98% of the time when it did drop on a few occasions there were no microstutters.
test 2 - KLAX - with fps limiter and all sliders at full, and yes, again with all traffic sliders at the 100% mark about the same with about 1-1.5fps variation. however it seems by using the fps limiter this leaves more resources to spend loading textures thus minimising the blurriness.

Even with the not-so-high fps at the airport I found no stuttering even when it went below 25fps. When i reeled back the traffic sliders to about 40% and medium at the airport the fps did increase. by 4-5fps. the message here is that, as we all know, fsx is a dog, however running the 3930k I have felt the difference from the 2600k in that there are fewer stutters even at lower fps.

Setting the sliders to a reasonable level I think that the 3930k does seem a few steps ahead of the 2600k. in addition, i am running quad channel memory and my 2600k was running dual channel. If you have the $$ and have anything lower than a 2600k or even a 2500 cpu then you will definately feel the immersive experience. I think that also when the ivy bridge arrives for the 1155 socket then this may be a happy medium but also giving you more power then the 2600k (historically speaking using the intel chips).

All in all i am happy with the new chip although for the $$ (1899) for 3930k, 16GB memory kit, and sabertooth x79 mobo, it is a serious comittment. now i just have to try and off sell my 2600k setup to recoup some of the costs. If anyone has comments or questions please fire away as I know I could probably be more specific with some of these details. And, if anyone is looking for a 2600k setup then give me a holler, i'm sure i could do a good deal on it.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:15 pm
by Ian Warren
Your data is incorrect LAX being ' one of the most demanding airports in FSX' . , being- Heres a Test , ORBX SYDNEY , that,s the BLUE , everything to the Max , Roads , Traffic and all sliders like myself did on its release i did approx 4 years back , also try and test on the recent , both Melbourne airports , I have one but this is to really test your super PC , me like all here want running screens .

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:28 pm
by Nzeddy
Seattle using Orbx PNW.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:02 pm
by Dontcopy
Which Watercooling solution do you use? I'm about to buy an H80/H100 in a week or two. just curious.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:35 pm
by Kelvinr
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Nov 19 2011,2:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your data is incorrect LAX being ' one of the most demanding airports in FSX' . , being- Heres a Test , ORBX SYDNEY , that,s the BLUE , everything to the Max , Roads , Traffic and all sliders like myself did on its release i did approx 4 years back , also try and test on the recent , both Melbourne airports , I have one but this is to really test your super PC , me like all here want running screens .


Hi Ian,

I don't have the ORBX regions so can't test with it. But the data I have is straight from testing on my machine. I will get some screens and post. We are talking default and my tests were not confounded with addon scenery as alot of users want raw data. I admit users may want to see the new system with those sceneries but i don't want to go out and buy scenery i hardly fly in. Anyway, i'm still keen to help those who are ambivalent in buying the new gear, that's what the forum is all about.

Nzeddy wrote:
QUOTE (Nzeddy @ Nov 19 2011,3:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seattle using Orbx PNW.


i'd love to be able to test with these addons but as you may understand my $$ is spent on my new rig. hehe if you can see the irony, it's like buying a car and not having a road to test it on hehe. i may consider getting the taxing scenery when $$ permits to test for my own curiosity as well. what are the frames other people are getting from the ORBX PNW seattle area?

Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Nov 19 2011,6:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which Watercooling solution do you use? I'm about to buy an H80/H100 in a week or two. just curious.


H80, great cooler and easy to install. to add to this, the 39xx series cpu's don't ship with air coolers now, intel's new strategy i suppose. I could only source a water cooling unit for it.

what i can promise people is that FSX does take advantage of all cores which is great to see. I did try different affinity masks but the frames were not really any different than the one resulting in boyotes tweak of fsx.cfg.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 7:03 pm
by Kelvinr
screenshot as promised, this shot is taken at KLAX using 9 of 12 threads and an average fps of 24


Resource use

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:50 am
by Dontcopy
funny to see that 10 cores are active, so 4 must by Hyper threading cores. hmmm wonder if FSX really does take advantage of them :/

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:19 am
by Kelvinr
Dontcopy wrote:
QUOTE (Dontcopy @ Nov 20 2011,9:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
funny to see that 10 cores are active, so 4 must by Hyper threading cores. hmmm wonder if FSX really does take advantage of them :/


I can set the affinity mask for all cores and it shows. But there is some question after some more testing.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:31 pm
by AndrewJamez
I went through the whole hyper threading with my i7 and allthough the task manager showed the 8 cores been used with the right affinity mask setting, I did not see any difference in fps at all. The only difference that i did see is that the cpu temps were way up with 8 cores forced through th affinity mask setting. Have you compared temps with and without hyper threading?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:28 pm
by creator2003
I have amd 6 cores infinity masked , if i dont have it on the CFG fsx runs like by half 20flp or so ,with it i run solid at 25-30 in most scenery around the world ,open the limiter up i get micro stutters but see it go way over 100flp if i turn down water and shadows off that is ..