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Postby Splitpin » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:49 pm

Sometime ago i posted that i noticed a big change (in res) between full screen and the other (with menu bar) .... and i asked why .... no reply , dont worry .

After simming since it came on a commodore 64 (and before) i now know , because... i never took the time to look rolleyes.gif that when i set the screen res in settings , its "fullscreen ."
Wont mean much to most of you ... but for me its a breakthrough ... 20 years late , but Im here.
I could never understand why the res never changed when i altered the setting and always blamed poor graphics .... ho hum .

There you go .... who would have thought laugh.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:07 pm

Gawd Marty, the Commodore 64 ... the 500 .. then upgraded to a whole whooping great 1mb ... My absolute fave was Microprose B17 Flying Fortress .. yes I completed the 25 required missions .. I was really in WWII - the flak the damage just so much fun 1992 it was smile.gif
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Postby omitchell » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:14 pm

Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Aug 20 2014,6:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sometime ago i posted that i noticed a big change (in res) between full screen and the other (with menu bar) .... and i asked why .... no reply , dont worry .

After simming since it came on a commodore 64 (and before) i now know , because... i never took the time to look rolleyes.gif that when i set the screen res in settings , its "fullscreen ."
Wont mean much to most of you ... but for me its a breakthrough ... 20 years late , but Im here.
I could never understand why the res never changed when i altered the setting and always blamed poor graphics .... ho hum .

There you go .... who would have thought laugh.gif


I started on the Commodore C16 cassette drive tongue.gif
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Postby Fozzer » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:41 pm

For me....

8-bits...
1980/1981 Sinclair ZX80, 1k, ZX81, <16k
1982 Sinclair ZX82 Spectrum 48k, 128k
Commodore Pet, C16, C64.
Amstrad CPC 464.

16 bits...
Atari 1040.
Amiga 500, 1200.

32 bits/64 bits...
Bill Gates.

My biggest love, then and now...my trusty Speccy 48k.... notworthy.gif ...!

Paul....and I've still got them all!.... biggrin.gif ...!
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Postby cowpatz » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:04 pm

Yeah I started on a Sinclair ZX81. 1 Kb of onboard memory and I had the huge 16 Kb plug in ram module.
You used to have to save your work to a cassette tape.
I can remember slaving away writing some code for a program and gently nudged the ram module which wiped all my work....yep learnt about backing up work at a very early stage.
It would take all day of writing code just to get a basic ball bouncing around the screen.
A Commodoe 64 was next. The first gaming rig. It had quite a cool ATC game.
My first PC was an Amstrad (from the PC company) with twin floppy disk drives no less.
It is amazing what we simply take for granted now.
Remember the 50-50-90 rule. Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong!

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Postby omitchell » Thu Aug 21, 2014 12:16 pm

cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Aug 21 2014,12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I started on a Sinclair ZX81. 1 Kb of onboard memory and I had the huge 16 Kb plug in ram module.
You used to have to save your work to a cassette tape.
I can remember slaving away writing some code for a program and gently nudged the ram module which wiped all my work....yep learnt about backing up work at a very early stage.
It would take all day of writing code just to get a basic ball bouncing around the screen.
A Commodoe 64 was next. The first gaming rig. It had quite a cool ATC game.
My first PC was an Amstrad (from the PC company) with twin floppy disk drives no less.
It is amazing what we simply take for granted now.


Indeed. I know a guy that still has a working 286 with a still working 8" floppy drive in it...
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Postby Fozzer » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:59 pm

For the lovers of all those fantastic, 8-bit games, I now run my "Spectaculator", Spectrum emulator, with all its zillions of free games!

Jetset Willy on a proper, multi-colour, multi-pixel, Computer Monitor!.....!

8-bit Heaven!...>>> http://www.spectaculator.com/

Paul....Happy memories re-ignited!.... biggrin.gif ...!

P.S...Marty...."Answering my own question" works wonders for me...I don't get into an argument with myself then!... thumbup1.gif ...!
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:59 am

Funny the first computer i really got my hands on was bro ex-wife's printing business's apple type machine, the program that interested me was the drawing package that come with the desktop laser printer - whooping cost with that - around 1984 it alone was worth twenty seven thou .. how time and costs have changed.
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Postby toprob » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:46 am

Obviously there are a lot of folk here who went through the entire process -- from when computers were rare (in NZ anyway), and punch-card-driven, through the very beginnings of the home computer. It is amazing how quickly we've got to the stage where computers are not only just another tool/appliance, but in many cases the one tool/appliance which replaces most others.

I was never geeky enough to get into that sort of thing, until I saw this ad (or one very similar) in Omni magazine, or one of those science mags anyway. Wow, colour! I wasn't interested in any of those old monochrome monstrosities, but just look at those colours! 3 colours at once!

US$300 turned into about NZ$1100 back then, my first introduction to the antipodes tax...
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:03 pm

Still using punch tape engineering machines even in 2004 , what made the machines obsolete - simply the tape punch's start to fail and break down and no spear parts or was more expensive to replace.
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Postby omitchell » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 pm

One thing I have to laugh at is computers were supposed to make things easier, faster and use a lot less paper but in my office the amount of paper that gets used is just obscene
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:12 pm

One off the worlds oldest arguments .. paper V chips, again going back to engineering you first need someone who can Doooo technical drawings , in engineering you need to read very tight tolerances but when you get an office boy with so called engineering Autocad/Solidworks skills , YES ... you would go through the paper.
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Postby toprob » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:16 pm

I've finally convinced my flatmate that there's no reason to print the internet...
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:33 pm

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I've finally convinced my flatmate that there's no reason to print the internet...

Stage as it seems, many still want hard copy paper, go to the hospital/doctor is an example, give them a memory stick with required info ... Its above the doc's heads - a simple file in PDF format or what ever .. Told ya doctors are not to bright! .. they can't answer the question .
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Postby omitchell » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:32 am

toprob wrote:
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I've finally convinced my flatmate that there's no reason to print the internet...


Told him the porn would still be there even after he closed the page?
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Postby cowpatz » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:58 am

So just what exactly were you looking at Owen at 1.32 am? wub.gif

Yes I am trying to convert my "I must print that" partner into just "printing" PDFs to keep on her hard drive with back up of course. It seems like we use more ink and paper than the NZ Herald.
How is it that you can buy a new printer cheaper than you can a replacement cartridges? I despair at what a wasteful generation we are...from fast food wrapping (look at the ink and resource used in a simple Macca's meal) to A4 sized cardboard backing for something link a USB flash drive. But I digress...
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:33 am

cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Aug 23 2014,9:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How is it that you can buy a new printer cheaper than you can a replacement cartridges? I despair at what a wasteful generation we are...from fast food wrapping (look at the ink and resource used in a simple Macca's meal) to A4 sized cardboard backing for something link a USB flash drive. But I digress...

1994 It cost me $1000 plus for the latest a deskjet, your right - today they are saying "here take it I don't want it" , with drawing and art now found even the print shops have up'd there costing for a printing and is now almost equal to print at home , this costing has really only gone up in the last couple of years and its almost 100% the at copy-print shops .
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