Pilots stabbed on flight to Christchurch!

[Globemaster]

New Zealand need to hammer this women to the maximum extent under the law to show that New Zealand does not handle acts of terriosm lightly.
Someone may have stated but what could the RNZAF do in such a hostile situation in the worse case scenario? CT4's with Kingairs as backup? and don't give me this New Zealand wont be targeted cr@p! Well done to the media for publicising anything can be carried onboard under 90 seats, just fantastic! Now the CAA need to quickly put a law in place addressing the issue before someone takes advantage. I believe its a matter of time before a pax leaps out of his seat and goes nuts and wants demands meet. The recent act is very sad though for the Women, You can understand why she did what she did although that isnt a excuse. Would like to see how New Zealand act on this.
Cheers

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QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

New Zealand need to hammer this women to the maximum extent under the law to show that New Zealand does not handle acts of terriosm lightly.

I'd rather they deported her tbh, she's already drained enough taxpayer money on a sickness benefit for the last (8?) years. Rather not have my taxes pay for her to stay in the Milton Hilton for the rest of her life

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now the CAA need to quickly put a law in place addressing the issue before someone takes advantage. I believe its a matter of time before a pax leaps out of his seat and goes nuts and wants demands meet.

I hope not, it'll make regional travel more of a rip off than it already is >_<

[victor_alpha_charlie]

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now the CAA need to quickly put a law in place addressing the issue before someone takes advantage. I believe its a matter of time before a pax leaps out of his seat and goes nuts and wants demands meet.
Cheers

And stop it being any fun on a flight at all? Can you tell me why someone would target NZ?

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 14 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The recent act is very sad though for the Women, You can understand why she did what she did although that isnt a excuse.

WHAT? No you can't! She was high on drugs! I can't understand why someone would want to hijack a J-32 with enough fuel to go to Blenheim and try to fly to Australia! What would she do (if) when she got there?

[MurrayH]

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 19 2008, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

New Zealand need to hammer this women to the maximum extent under the law to show that New Zealand does not handle acts of terriosm lightly.
Someone may have stated but what could the RNZAF do in such a hostile situation in the worse case scenario? CT4's with Kingairs as backup? and don't give me this New Zealand wont be targeted cr@p! Well done to the media for publicising anything can be carried onboard under 90 seats, just fantastic! Now the CAA need to quickly put a law in place addressing the issue before someone takes advantage. I believe its a matter of time before a pax leaps out of his seat and goes nuts and wants demands meet. The recent act is very sad though for the Women, You can understand why she did what she did although that isnt a excuse. Would like to see how New Zealand act on this.
Cheers

Please don't confuse a hi-jacking with an act of terrorism. The "T" word gets used out of context far too much.

The woman arrested for this incident clearly does not think the same way as the rest of us.

We need to be very careful to ensure that we do not get consumed with the paranoia generated by the media.

Flying within New Zealand is safe - very safe. Adding more security checks would be an over reaction and a waste of time and money.

A better question to ask may be- with her reported history of mental illness and violent outbursts - what could have been done earlier?

BTW - there is already a law in place - it's already illegal to hi-jack a plane in New Zealand!

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And stop it being any fun on a flight at all? Can you tell me why someone would target NZ?[/quote]
I didn't mean take the fun out of flying, What I mean is that the CAA need to put a law on Airlines to screen passengers under 90 seats. To the New Zealand won't be targeted piece, I was using that as a poor excuse for the RNZAF to have a strike-wing and be ready. I won't start with what I think the NZ government should do about a strike-wing for the RNZAF as that will go nowhere.

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I'd rather they deported her tbh, she's already drained enough taxpayer money on a sickness benefit for the last (8?) years. Rather not have my taxes pay for her to stay in the Milton Hilton for the rest of her life[/quote] Agreed, although Im sure she won't stand much of a chance back on that trash hole island. Im not a political person so I will not say what I think the NZ Government should do in regards to consequences of the decision. Just it needs to be tough!

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WHAT? No you can't! She was high on drugs! I can't understand why someone would want to hijack a J-32 with enough fuel to go to Blenheim and try to fly to Australia! What would she do (if) when she got there?[/quote]
I was meaning shes mentally unstable and cannot make decisons for herself which in my mind is sad.

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Please don't confuse a hi-jacking with an act of terrorism. The "T" word gets used out of context far too much.[/quote]
Hi-jacking isn't an act of terrorism?

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BTW - there is already a law in place - it's already illegal to hi-jack a plane in New Zealand!][/quote]
Well aint you smart! you must have a high college degree to know that! I was meaning CAA have no law on Airlines to screen passengers under 90 seats and allowing practically anything to be carried onboard.

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Flying within New Zealand is safe - very safe. Adding more security checks would be an over reaction and a waste of time and money.[/quote] Fully agree, I would hope though that in the event of a hi-jacking the remaining pax onboard would do anything in their power to bring the aircraft under control. (Don't think that the pax did anything on the recent hi-jacking?)

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A better question to ask may be- with her reported history of mental illness and violent outbursts - what could have been done earlier?[/quote] Well said! Address that to someone in your goverment house. What was she doing flying in a state like that?

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I hope not, it'll make regional travel more of a rip off than it already is >_<[/quote] Regional travel currently is the cheapest its ever been has it not? Sure, forget about putting a law in place if your happy with knowing the passengers surrounding you could have potentially deadly weapons.

To be honest even if a law was in place, it doesn't take a scientist to work out that something onboard the aircraft can be used as a weapon. I would think passengers would like the risk minismised as far as it can go to ensure that flights are safe but enjoyable. Well done to the crew and I wish them a get well soon in regards to injurys substained. Hope the effects are little of the experience and they return to active flying.

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by Alex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:17 pm

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I didn't mean take the fun out of flying, What I mean is that the CAA need to put a law on Airlines to screen passengers under 90 seats. To the New Zealand won't be targeted piece, I was using that as a poor excuse for the RNZAF to have a strike-wing and be ready. I won't start with what I think the NZ government should do about a strike-wing for the RNZAF as that will go nowhere.

I'll speak out and I say I don't agree with that. Airline travel is by far the safest way to travel (in NZ moreso), and one extremely isolated incident should not affect the rest of us. Adding security measures currently implemented for aircraft with 90+ seats to aircraft with <90 seats would be an excellent way to throw money away, and would create a major hassle for regional airports throughout the country.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Agreed, although Im sure she won't stand much of a chance back on that trash hole island. Im not a political person so I will not say what I think the NZ Government should do in regards to consequences of the decision. Just it needs to be tough!

I agree with deportation, back to Somalia I believe it was.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi-jacking isn't an act of terriosm?

From Dictionary.com
ter·ror·ism /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ [ter-uh-riz-uhm] –noun

1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

To me (and Dictionary) Terrorism is acting in a way to try and affect the operation of a larger organisation (i.e. government). This was an isolated case, with no ulterior motive to the attempted hijacking of the aircraft. Hijacking and Terrorism are often linked, but in no way related (metaphorically speaking).

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Fully agree, I would hope though that in the event of a hi-jacking the remaining pax onboard would do anything in their power to bring the aircraft under control. (Don't think that the pax did anything on the recent hi-jacking?)

The passengers on board subdued the would-be hijacker and restrained her.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Regional travel currently is the cheapest its ever been has it not?

Not perhaps so true as we are led to believe. It is cheaper in some places, but those places are between the main cities, on the trunk lines. Airlines wouldn't rise prices on these routes because of the fierce competition (besides, these routes are mainly operated by 737's; which are screened anyway), no, the brunt will fall on the regional routes where Air NZ has a virtual monopoly. Flying tomorrow ROT-AKL will cost me nearly $200 (Pacific Blue now offer $60 fares on routes between AKL, WLG, CHC), on Sunday it will cost $120, still twice the amount for a flight under half the distance operated by Air NZ, Qantas JC, or Pacific Blue.
People who have been on the NZ Aviation scene for a while will appreciate the yo-yo action of fares charged by Air NZ. Whilst the fares are cheap now, it would be a drastic mistake to assume that this will be the case in the future.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To be honest even if a law was in place, it doesn't take a scientist to work out that something onboard the aircraft can be used as a weapon. I would think passengers would like the risk minismised as far as it can go to ensure that flights are safe but enjoyable. Well done to the crew and I wish them a get well soon in regards to injurys substained. Hope the effects are little of the experience and they return to active flying.

I fly reasonably regularly on Eagle Air (2-3 times a year), and am happy with the current situation, I feel that any changes (insofar as the ones mentioned here) would negatively affect my experience as a customer/passenger.

Alex

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by Globemaster » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:26 pm

Alex

Thanks for clearing alot of that stuff up, You sure went into detail! Learn something everyday huh.
I agree with what you guys are saying about stuffing up the fun in air travel, It's just that I know from experience that there are definitely some real crazy bastards out there! I'm not keen to find out what they're capable of above the clouds with the potential things they could have on board!
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by pois0n » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:30 pm

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Regional travel currently is the cheapest its ever been has it not? Sure, forget about putting a law in place if your happy with knowing the passengers surrounding you could have potentially deadly weapons.

To be honest even if a law was in place, it doesn't take a scientist to work out that something onboard the aircraft can be used as a weapon. I would think passengers would like the risk minismised as far as it can go to ensure that flights are safe but enjoyable. Well done to the crew and I wish them a get well soon in regards to injurys substained. Hope the effects are little of the experience and they return to active flying.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me what people have on a plane, it's their business what they carry.

I flew DUD-CHC recently and had a pocket knife on my key ring

Meh, hijacking a plane in NZ would be completely pointless and I don't see why anybody would want to do it

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by NinerOne » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:52 pm

Mate !

Thought ya would have been the last person to comment about security in NZ! Whats up !
You taking the ####?

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by FlyingKiwi » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:27 am

QUOTE (pois0n @ Feb 20 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Meh, hijacking a plane in NZ would be completely pointless and I don't see why anybody would want to do it

It would, but unfortunately like others have pointed out, there are crazy people out there who don't really need a logical reason to hijack a plane.

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by SUBS17 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:52 pm

Yeah thats true funny thing is it was probably more expensive to fly to christchurch than it would be to fly to Aussie .

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by Globemaster » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:30 pm

Matt both you and I will know by reading reports like this that something has to be done period

Arsenal seized from air passengers
5:00AM Saturday February 16, 2008
By Beck Vass
Hand grenades, knuckledusters, knives and live explosives are being seized from people leaving Auckland International Airport.
Security officers have a large arsenal seized from passengers trying to board flights in recent weeks.
Knives, fireworks, butane gas and other dangerous goods such as car batteries are confiscated daily but the unusual finds were three grenades and a crossbow pistol.
Many of the items seized at the airport can be taken on domestic flights. Passengers and luggage are screened on flights of 90 or more people, but smaller flights go unchecked.
But airport security is being reviewed after the arrest of Blenheim woman Asha Ali Abdille, who allegedly hijacked an Eagle Air flight from Blenheim to Christchurch eight days ago.
Abdille is alleged to have pulled out a knife on the flight, causing a scuffle in which the pilot, co-pilot and a passenger were injured.
The Government is looking into whether the risk of such incidents is great enough to extend passenger screening to the smaller domestic flights.
Peter Pilley of the Aviation Security Service told the Herald his Auckland staff were amazed by the types of things people tried to get on to flights.
While many items such as tools were innocently carried, they posed a risk in the air.
Other items were not so innocuous and led to charges, including one man who was caught about three years ago trying to board an international flight with a large knife strapped to one leg.
Mr Pilley said other confiscated items included a rifle silencer, police-type batons, handcuffs, replica weapons, a meat cleaver in a woman's handbag, and a butterfly knife - something not even allowed in New Zealand.
"People have it in their bags, people have it on their person.
"We take several hundred items a day at Auckland and that's based on probably an average of 8000 to 12,000 passengers departing, depending on the day."
An elderly lady once tried to take three hand grenades which belonged to her son on a flight to Queensland.
On Wednesday a person was caught carrying live .303 ammunition.
But the most unusual weapon Mr Pilley had seen was a replica medieval ball and chain with spikes.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story....jectid=10492762

Some of the replys throughout this thread had me laugh. I won't say no more, I've had enough.

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by ardypilot » Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:50 pm

An update today on stuff.co.nz gives us a bit of an insight to what went on onboard the mentioned flight from Blenhiem to Christchurch back in Feb:

Asha Ali Abdille told a police officer she should have killed the pilot of the Air New Zealand aircraft she allegedly hijacked earlier this year.

Abdille faces six charges - hijacking, taking an offensive weapon on to an aircraft and four of wounding or injuring with reckless disregard for safety - after an Air National flight from Blenheim to Christchurch in February.

Constable Nigel Barton told a depositions hearing today of a conversation with Abdille after her arrest.

He said Abdille told him that she "went easy on the pilot.''

"He wouldn't listen to me. I should have killed the pilot earlier, I should have stabbed him,'' Barton said.

Barton was giving evidence at the second day of the depositions hearing at the Christchurch District Court.

'DO YOU WANT TO DIE?'

The 34-year-old Somali woman was emotionless throughout the hearing in the Christchurch District Court yesterday.

Police prosecutor Pip Currie said Abdille had bought two knives the day before the February 8 flight and was carrying them and one more when she boarded in Blenheim.

The plane's captain, who has name suppression, recalled Abdille appearing in the cockpit doorway about 10 minutes into the journey.

"She was shouting `Take me where I want to go' and was thrusting a knife at me," he said.

He grabbed her wrist, but lost his grip and was cut with the knife.

The first officer managed to continue flying the plane and sent a mayday call to air traffic control.

"I believe she said `Get me out of here' several times," the captain said.

"I asked her where she wanted to go and she said she wanted to go to Australia."

When told the plane did not carry enough fuel to get to Australia, she said they could just fly into the sea instead.

"She said she had a bomb and indicated that it was in the bag," he said.

"I had serious concerns for the safety of myself, the first officer, passengers and the aeroplane."

The captain described Abdille's moods over the rest of the flight as erratic -- one minute calm and talking about her family, the next crying or becoming aggressive.

"She mentioned several times that she and her sister had been raped by police," he said.

"She said at one stage that we were all going to die, but she didn't say how."

Once the plane started its descent into Christchurch, Abdille flicked a switch on the overhead panel, he said.

The cabin-lights switch that she hit was just 20cm away from two stop buttons that would cut the Jetstream 32's engines.

"I believe, considering the configuration of the aeroplane and altitude, that we would have crashed (had she hit those buttons)," said the captain.

After the plane landed, Abdille allowed the seven passengers to get off.

"I was angry, scared. I didn't want to become a hostage or stabbed or blown up and killed," the captain said.

"She said `It's just you and me now'."

While she was looking towards the back of the plane, the captain pushed her to the ground, where she became wedged in the aisle, still holding her knife.

In the struggle, he suffered a serious cut to his hand that required extensive surgery and the amputation of part of his thumb.

The first officer managed to kick the knife out of Abdille's hand and police entered and took her away.

A Christchurch woman gave evidence of Abdille's erratic behaviour.

"She was upset and agitated. At times she was very angry; at other times she appeared frightened; other times crying and wiping her tears away," she said. "She made reference that she didn't want to hurt us or harm us, but also one or two times she said we were all going to die."

The woman said she tried to approach Abdille to calm her, but suffered a small cut to her hand and was told to sit down.

She said that at one stage Abdille asked a male passenger: "Do you want to die? Do you want to go to heaven?"

The woman said Abdille told a female passenger who was crying and clearly frightened: "I can see you are upset; I know how you feel."

Abdille's defence counsel, Antony Shaw, put it to the captain and the passenger that his client had first asked the pilot to take her to Africa, but neither could recall her saying that.

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[Alex]

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I didn't mean take the fun out of flying, What I mean is that the CAA need to put a law on Airlines to screen passengers under 90 seats. To the New Zealand won't be targeted piece, I was using that as a poor excuse for the RNZAF to have a strike-wing and be ready. I won't start with what I think the NZ government should do about a strike-wing for the RNZAF as that will go nowhere.

I'll speak out and I say I don't agree with that. Airline travel is by far the safest way to travel (in NZ moreso), and one extremely isolated incident should not affect the rest of us. Adding security measures currently implemented for aircraft with 90+ seats to aircraft with <90 seats would be an excellent way to throw money away, and would create a major hassle for regional airports throughout the country.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Agreed, although Im sure she won't stand much of a chance back on that trash hole island. Im not a political person so I will not say what I think the NZ Government should do in regards to consequences of the decision. Just it needs to be tough!

I agree with deportation, back to Somalia I believe it was.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi-jacking isn't an act of terriosm?

From Dictionary.com
ter·ror·ism /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ [ter-uh-riz-uhm] –noun

1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

To me (and Dictionary) Terrorism is acting in a way to try and affect the operation of a larger organisation (i.e. government). This was an isolated case, with no ulterior motive to the attempted hijacking of the aircraft. Hijacking and Terrorism are often linked, but in no way related (metaphorically speaking).

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Fully agree, I would hope though that in the event of a hi-jacking the remaining pax onboard would do anything in their power to bring the aircraft under control. (Don't think that the pax did anything on the recent hi-jacking?)

The passengers on board subdued the would-be hijacker and restrained her.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Regional travel currently is the cheapest its ever been has it not?

Not perhaps so true as we are led to believe. It is cheaper in some places, but those places are between the main cities, on the trunk lines. Airlines wouldn't rise prices on these routes because of the fierce competition (besides, these routes are mainly operated by 737's; which are screened anyway), no, the brunt will fall on the regional routes where Air NZ has a virtual monopoly. Flying tomorrow ROT-AKL will cost me nearly $200 (Pacific Blue now offer $60 fares on routes between AKL, WLG, CHC), on Sunday it will cost $120, still twice the amount for a flight under half the distance operated by Air NZ, Qantas JC, or Pacific Blue.
People who have been on the NZ Aviation scene for a while will appreciate the yo-yo action of fares charged by Air NZ. Whilst the fares are cheap now, it would be a drastic mistake to assume that this will be the case in the future.

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To be honest even if a law was in place, it doesn't take a scientist to work out that something onboard the aircraft can be used as a weapon. I would think passengers would like the risk minismised as far as it can go to ensure that flights are safe but enjoyable. Well done to the crew and I wish them a get well soon in regards to injurys substained. Hope the effects are little of the experience and they return to active flying.

I fly reasonably regularly on Eagle Air (2-3 times a year), and am happy with the current situation, I feel that any changes (insofar as the ones mentioned here) would negatively affect my experience as a customer/passenger.

Alex

[Globemaster]

Alex

Thanks for clearing alot of that stuff up, You sure went into detail! Learn something everyday huh.
I agree with what you guys are saying about stuffing up the fun in air travel, It's just that I know from experience that there are definitely some real crazy bastards out there! I'm not keen to find out what they're capable of above the clouds with the potential things they could have on board!
Cheers

[pois0n]

QUOTE (Globemaster @ Feb 15 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Regional travel currently is the cheapest its ever been has it not? Sure, forget about putting a law in place if your happy with knowing the passengers surrounding you could have potentially deadly weapons.

To be honest even if a law was in place, it doesn't take a scientist to work out that something onboard the aircraft can be used as a weapon. I would think passengers would like the risk minismised as far as it can go to ensure that flights are safe but enjoyable. Well done to the crew and I wish them a get well soon in regards to injurys substained. Hope the effects are little of the experience and they return to active flying.

To be honest it doesn't really bother me what people have on a plane, it's their business what they carry.

I flew DUD-CHC recently and had a pocket knife on my key ring

Meh, hijacking a plane in NZ would be completely pointless and I don't see why anybody would want to do it

[NinerOne]

Mate !

Thought ya would have been the last person to comment about security in NZ! Whats up !
You taking the ####?

Matt

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QUOTE (pois0n @ Feb 20 2008, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Meh, hijacking a plane in NZ would be completely pointless and I don't see why anybody would want to do it

It would, but unfortunately like others have pointed out, there are crazy people out there who don't really need a logical reason to hijack a plane.

[SUBS17]

Yeah thats true funny thing is it was probably more expensive to fly to christchurch than it would be to fly to Aussie .

[Globemaster]

Matt both you and I will know by reading reports like this that something has to be done period

Arsenal seized from air passengers
5:00AM Saturday February 16, 2008
By Beck Vass
Hand grenades, knuckledusters, knives and live explosives are being seized from people leaving Auckland International Airport.
Security officers have a large arsenal seized from passengers trying to board flights in recent weeks.
Knives, fireworks, butane gas and other dangerous goods such as car batteries are confiscated daily but the unusual finds were three grenades and a crossbow pistol.
Many of the items seized at the airport can be taken on domestic flights. Passengers and luggage are screened on flights of 90 or more people, but smaller flights go unchecked.
But airport security is being reviewed after the arrest of Blenheim woman Asha Ali Abdille, who allegedly hijacked an Eagle Air flight from Blenheim to Christchurch eight days ago.
Abdille is alleged to have pulled out a knife on the flight, causing a scuffle in which the pilot, co-pilot and a passenger were injured.
The Government is looking into whether the risk of such incidents is great enough to extend passenger screening to the smaller domestic flights.
Peter Pilley of the Aviation Security Service told the Herald his Auckland staff were amazed by the types of things people tried to get on to flights.
While many items such as tools were innocently carried, they posed a risk in the air.
Other items were not so innocuous and led to charges, including one man who was caught about three years ago trying to board an international flight with a large knife strapped to one leg.
Mr Pilley said other confiscated items included a rifle silencer, police-type batons, handcuffs, replica weapons, a meat cleaver in a woman's handbag, and a butterfly knife - something not even allowed in New Zealand.
"People have it in their bags, people have it on their person.
"We take several hundred items a day at Auckland and that's based on probably an average of 8000 to 12,000 passengers departing, depending on the day."
An elderly lady once tried to take three hand grenades which belonged to her son on a flight to Queensland.
On Wednesday a person was caught carrying live .303 ammunition.
But the most unusual weapon Mr Pilley had seen was a replica medieval ball and chain with spikes.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story....jectid=10492762

Some of the replys throughout this thread had me laugh. I won't say no more, I've had enough.

[ardypilot]

An update today on stuff.co.nz gives us a bit of an insight to what went on onboard the mentioned flight from Blenhiem to Christchurch back in Feb:

Asha Ali Abdille told a police officer she should have killed the pilot of the Air New Zealand aircraft she allegedly hijacked earlier this year.

Abdille faces six charges - hijacking, taking an offensive weapon on to an aircraft and four of wounding or injuring with reckless disregard for safety - after an Air National flight from Blenheim to Christchurch in February.

Constable Nigel Barton told a depositions hearing today of a conversation with Abdille after her arrest.

He said Abdille told him that she "went easy on the pilot.''

"He wouldn't listen to me. I should have killed the pilot earlier, I should have stabbed him,'' Barton said.

Barton was giving evidence at the second day of the depositions hearing at the Christchurch District Court.

'DO YOU WANT TO DIE?'

The 34-year-old Somali woman was emotionless throughout the hearing in the Christchurch District Court yesterday.

Police prosecutor Pip Currie said Abdille had bought two knives the day before the February 8 flight and was carrying them and one more when she boarded in Blenheim.

The plane's captain, who has name suppression, recalled Abdille appearing in the cockpit doorway about 10 minutes into the journey.

"She was shouting `Take me where I want to go' and was thrusting a knife at me," he said.

He grabbed her wrist, but lost his grip and was cut with the knife.

The first officer managed to continue flying the plane and sent a mayday call to air traffic control.

"I believe she said `Get me out of here' several times," the captain said.

"I asked her where she wanted to go and she said she wanted to go to Australia."

When told the plane did not carry enough fuel to get to Australia, she said they could just fly into the sea instead.

"She said she had a bomb and indicated that it was in the bag," he said.

"I had serious concerns for the safety of myself, the first officer, passengers and the aeroplane."

The captain described Abdille's moods over the rest of the flight as erratic -- one minute calm and talking about her family, the next crying or becoming aggressive.

"She mentioned several times that she and her sister had been raped by police," he said.

"She said at one stage that we were all going to die, but she didn't say how."

Once the plane started its descent into Christchurch, Abdille flicked a switch on the overhead panel, he said.

The cabin-lights switch that she hit was just 20cm away from two stop buttons that would cut the Jetstream 32's engines.

"I believe, considering the configuration of the aeroplane and altitude, that we would have crashed (had she hit those buttons)," said the captain.

After the plane landed, Abdille allowed the seven passengers to get off.

"I was angry, scared. I didn't want to become a hostage or stabbed or blown up and killed," the captain said.

"She said `It's just you and me now'."

While she was looking towards the back of the plane, the captain pushed her to the ground, where she became wedged in the aisle, still holding her knife.

In the struggle, he suffered a serious cut to his hand that required extensive surgery and the amputation of part of his thumb.

The first officer managed to kick the knife out of Abdille's hand and police entered and took her away.

A Christchurch woman gave evidence of Abdille's erratic behaviour.

"She was upset and agitated. At times she was very angry; at other times she appeared frightened; other times crying and wiping her tears away," she said. "She made reference that she didn't want to hurt us or harm us, but also one or two times she said we were all going to die."

The woman said she tried to approach Abdille to calm her, but suffered a small cut to her hand and was told to sit down.

She said that at one stage Abdille asked a male passenger: "Do you want to die? Do you want to go to heaven?"

The woman said Abdille told a female passenger who was crying and clearly frightened: "I can see you are upset; I know how you feel."

Abdille's defence counsel, Antony Shaw, put it to the captain and the passenger that his client had first asked the pilot to take her to Africa, but neither could recall her saying that.