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Postby cowpatz » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:37 pm

I don't know the original source of this but take it as you will.

Qantas operates the Trent 972 engine, which delivers a maximum thrust of 72,000 lb. The only other current two Trent 900 operators, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines, operate the Trent 970 with a maximum 70,000 lb of thrust.

That extra 2,000 lb on each engine is needed to get the A380 off LAX’s relatively short runways in a headwind with a full load for a 14 hour flight in light of Airbus adding structural weight to the A380 in 2007. Prior to that time Qantas planned to use the 70,000 lb Trent 900 variant.

However, the extra thrust exposes the engine to 540 psi at P30, which causes the engine to experience “high severityâ€￾, the affidavit says. Rolls-Royce’s interim suggestion to Qantas has to been to derate the engines in order to “reduce the engine pressure ratio in the ‘P30′ area of the engine and therefore increase the life of the oil transfer tubes within the HP/IP support structureâ€￾

The oil transfer tubes are the suspected cause of an oil leak that started a fire and then the uncontained engine failure. The derated thrust, however, reduces payload and makes the LAX-Australia route unprofitable.

The Trent 900 has had three modification standards: A, B, and C. Qantas and Rolls have agreed the carrier should not operate at all the “A modâ€￾. The “B modâ€￾ and “C modâ€￾ can be used, even for maximum thrust–but only 75 times. After the 75th maximum thrust take-off, the engine needs to be replaced.
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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:32 pm

Arr So there you go .. don't overclock your PC .. the cap's don't like it and next thing 'POP' something has to blow ... that's a thought, get the ole ugg ARBUST J.A.T.O mounts just for the takeoffs, winkyy.gif Sure the passengers would feel safer. idea.gif
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Postby NZ255 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:58 am

Far out, interesting stuff. Do you know if they're loosing money on that route or just breaking even?
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Postby cowpatz » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:43 pm

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QUOTE (NZ255 @ Mar 2 2014,11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Far out, interesting stuff. Do you know if they're loosing money on that route or just breaking even?



I'm not sure. I know a while ago they were having to carry a lot more gas than they wanted to because many of the enroute airfields were not capable to handling the Code F A380. So the distance between the available emergency use airfields was quite distant necessitating the carriage of a lot of fuel to cover the depressurisation scenario. That would have hurt.
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