LiveATC for NZ is back!

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Charl @ Aug 28 2013,6:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Real as it gets, and totally immersive.

When out at the airport couple weeks back first the looking but also noticed many different country's training , speaking the CAC boys they all use FSX , would not take much to create or build a similar voice over , different sound room or invent .. do the real talk and then add it to the sim

[Charl]

Good idea...

I have to say this (and you know what is coming):
An airport like EHAM carrying full traffic and weather would bring an I7 to its knees using FSX, never mind shooting it with FRAPS.

This is what FS9.5 is meant for.

[Ian Warren]

All you need is a sound engineer, sure lot the chaps would have a ball inventing some unique tower chatter .. course the couple of real tower boys add final input , guess its a bit to modify it to add to default FS9/FSX ATC .. must be a way to glue it in .

[HamiltonWest]

QUOTE (cowpatz @ Aug 28 2013,4:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It is quite clearly a breach of the Radio Communications act Section 133A unless LiveATC has permission to re-broadcast the transmissions. Being VHF (and therefore of limited range) the interception is taking place locally and this is where the breach of the law is occurring.

The Problem with that is that LiveATC.net are not located in NZ, they are not bound by any NZ laws, only the law of the country they are physically located in,
don't know what the situation with the Law is with the people intercepting the Signal in NZ is However? but they aren't actually rebroadcasting it on the net - Liveatc Is?.

[J7G]

Supplying it is in breech of the Act mate.

[HamiltonWest]

QUOTE (J7G @ Aug 28 2013,7:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Supplying it is in breech of the Act mate.

Cheers Clarify's it

[Charl]

QUOTE (huff3r @ Aug 27 2013,12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Nope, it's a CAR (Civil Aviation Rule) that makes it illegal to record, or rebroadcast, or even listen to and act on information in a transmission not destined for you.

Since I am listening to this stuff right now, I'd like to make sure I'm not transgressing somehow.
Do you have a reference?
The closest I could find is NZ Civil Aviation Rule 139.351(a) but that affects only UNICOM and AWIB Services.

[J7G]

It's fine to listen to but you're not allowed by law (not the rules, by legislation proper, referenced earlier) to either disclose or act on that information.

[cowpatz]

QUOTE (J7G @ Aug 28 2013,5:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The media already have scanner banks running, if anyone is going to misrepresent a situation will it be:

A. The guy listening in on a steam or

B. The guy who has the job of misrepresenting situations and already has access to the broadcasts anyway?

I know where you are coming from but these days with social media it is probably more likely to be 'Johnny' at home with a scanner who then texts, Tweats or posts on facebook what he heard.

I am not sure how the media use the information they glean from listening in but I would suggest that it is a trigger to seek additional information and then report.

Like all laws it is one thing to have them but an entirely different matter altogether when it comes to upholding or policing them. The fact that the law is not upheld well still does not make the activity legal.