New Zealand Aviation Security

[BAT22]

Well there you go now its Bus Hijaking and a Airport Bus at that

What was I saying earlier

[BAT22]

You probably are wondering what the heck the last post was about?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story....340&ref=rss

So after the last fuss I would expect to see calls for tougher public transport security Arm all Bus Drivers with Tazars and improve Bus stop security with x-ray and and metal detectors.

[FlyingKiwi]

Hah, yeah I couldn't help be reminded about the fuss over the Air National incident by this bus hijacking!

[SUBS17]

QUOTE (BAT22 @ Mar 19 2008, 05:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well there you go now its Bus Hijaking and a Airport Bus at that

What was I saying earlier

But it still doesn't change the point that an aircraft can do much more damage than a bus as for the driver its possible to have a barrier like in some taxis to prevent any harm done to the driver and is some countries thats what they do.

[greaneyr]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Mar 16 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But it still doesn't change the point that an aircraft can do much more damage than a bus as for the driver its possible to have a barrier like in some taxis to prevent any harm done to the driver and is some countries thats what they do.

As a bystander, which would you say is higher: the chance of being run over by a bus, or the chance of being run over by a taxiing aircraft? A hijacked aircraft may well be able to kill all passengers on board, but a hijacked bus could do a GTA-style run and harm a lot more than just those on board.

[Anthony]

QUOTE (greaneyr @ Mar 16 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As a bystander, which would you say is higher: the chance of being run over by a bus, or the chance of being run over by a taxiing aircraft? A hijacked aircraft may well be able to kill all passengers on board, but a hijacked bus could do a GTA-style run and harm a lot more than just those on board.

So it's safe to say then that theres danger present in both hijacked aircraft and hijacked buses.
There's danger in most things though.

In response to what you actually said, there's obviously more danger in being run over by a hijacked bus than a taxiing aircraft (unless you spend your time on airport aprons).

Cheers
Anthony Harris

[victor_alpha_charlie]

QUOTE (brotonee @ Mar 16 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

In response to what you actually said, there's obviously more danger in being run over by a hijacked bus than a taxiing aircraft (unless you spend your time on airport aprons).

Cheers
Anthony Harris

Like that guy at Heathrow?

[SUBS17]

QUOTE (greaneyr @ Mar 21 2008, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As a bystander, which would you say is higher: the chance of being run over by a bus, or the chance of being run over by a taxiing aircraft? A hijacked aircraft may well be able to kill all passengers on board, but a hijacked bus could do a GTA-style run and harm a lot more than just those on board.

But the aircraft could crash into anything its not limited as to where it can go because it is stuck to the road like a bus is although GTA style run can cause damage but no where as much as an aircraft. Buses tend to do a bit of damage to other vehicles but they can easily be pursued and stopped with road spikes or road blocks also the driver can be easily shot by police if a person were to behave in such a way. An aircraft cannot be as easily pursued and then you have the fuel which in a crash can make far more problems than a buses mere 100-200L of diesel. We're not comparing a taxiing aircraft to a hijacked bus here we are comparing an aircraft in flight full of passengers.

[victor_alpha_charlie]

Just put a lockable door in the cockpit--
Duh

[Anthony]

QUOTE (victor_alpha_charlie @ Mar 17 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just put a lockable door in the cockpit--
Duh

The simplest solution is the best one! (Occam's razor?)

But seriously. This would have essentially the same effect as extra security measures on the ground, and it's already in place for a lot of AC.
The only unfortunate thing about cockpit doors is that they restrict any chance of a view in the cockpit and out the windshield!!!!

Cheers
Anthony Harris

[deaneb]

QUOTE (brotonee @ Mar 18 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The only unfortunate thing about cockpit doors is that they restrict any chance of a view in the cockpit and out the windshield!!!!

Which sucks if you are in the front few seats on the 1900 which don't have side windows !!

Deane