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BigBird wrote:

QUOTE (BigBird @ Jun 30 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/artic...jectid=10581646

What are they going to do? Surely all Airbuses need to be grounded until the issues are sorted out!

Are you serious? I saw a Toyota crashed today. They should be taken off the road until there is a 100% chance that another one won't crash!
Some people just amaze me...

BigBird wrote:

QUOTE (BigBird @ Jun 30 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Surely all Airbuses need to be grounded until the issues are sorted out!

First of all A310 is old AC and now that's not many of them left in Europe. And it is not fbw designed aircraft. Ok, why B haven't grounded all its ac, when 1.5 years ago they have had serious engines problems on 777? Please don't be like journalist, count the number of pax carried on type, than count number of fatalities and then make your "genious conclusions" about grounding the whole family of aircrafts(thats something like only few thousands of aircrafts, thats absolutely nothing).
Or maybe im wrong and you have PhD in aircraft industry?
First of all, now in this recession, aircraft accidents will happen more often because maintenance costs are reduced, and its sadly. Second, here is enough A and B in the air to crash(i mean statistically, if something can brake, it will break, and if you have more aircrafts, the chance of crash increasing), so its more likely that 320 will crash more often than fe Tu-204, because there are thousands of A320 in the air, compare to few dozens of Tu-204.
Sadly news, hope there are survivers.

Yeah it's a sad accident, but I think grounding all Airbuses might be a bit rash. After all the A310 is pre-FBW era which makes it a completely different beast to the A320 and A330. It's also an aging type, introduced in 1982/1983.

Whoa, take it easy guys. I know it can be a hot topic, but try and keep a calm head...

Debate the issue, not the person.

Alex

Now to start the A v B debate.

Ground all the A's that way the B's will get the sales

(This is from an avid B fan, that finds a number of the A's growing on him - esp the 340's)

BigBird wrote:

QUOTE (BigBird @ Jun 30 2009, 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/artic...jectid=10581646

What are they going to do? Surely all Airbuses need to be grounded until the issues are sorted out!

You have fallen into the same trap as the media, unfortunately the title "Airbus" lends itself to being one acft rather than a series.

Seem to have got quite a reaction... Okay, okay! In hindsight, yes, my comment re grounding all Airbuses was a bit rash.

What's going to happen if another one comes down in the near future? (Let's hope it doesn't happen! But with the current trend...)

From what I've heard, the airport in question at which the aircraft was landing is an especially difficult approach at night, with very few visual cues and high terrain in the immediate vicinity. Throwing bad weather into the mix doesn't help things. For all we know it could have been pure pilot error - it's a bit early to speculate on whether there was actually anything wrong with the aircraft, and if so whether it was any fault of Airbus' or a case of dodgy airline maintenance.

Also, apparently there is 1 survivor, most recently reported as a 14 year old girl.

Why my comment to bigbird was removerd?

This might interest some of you. I know it's not particularly up to date (perhaps you can find a newer version?)
But in Dec 2007, these results show you are more likely to experience a fatal event in a Boeing than in an Airbus.
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm

(Don't shoot me! I love Boeing, but I also love Airbus!)

Albatross wrote:

QUOTE (Albatross @ Jul 1 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This might interest some of you. I know it's not particularly up to date (perhaps you can find a newer version?)
But in Dec 2007, these results show you are more likely to experience a fatal event in a Boeing than in an Airbus.
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm

(Don't shoot me! I love Boeing, but I also love Airbus!)

BigBird wrote:

QUOTE (BigBird @ Jul 1 2009, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What's going to happen if another one comes down in the near future? (Let's hope it doesn't happen! But with the current trend...)

Another Airbus WILL crash, that is 100% certain.

What will happen? Probably the usual- injuries, news reports and an investigation.

bennz wrote:

QUOTE (bennz @ Jul 1 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why my comment to bigbird was removerd?

Because it was exactly the opposite of what had been asked. Name-calling and unkind implications aren't tolerated. Just a heads up.

Alex

Alex wrote:

QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 1 2009, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Because it was exactly the opposite of what had been asked. Name-calling and unkind implications aren't tolerated. Just a heads up.

Alex

It wasn't a name calling . I was stating the facts, People should think before they make any statement.

bennz wrote:

QUOTE (bennz @ Jul 2 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It wasn't a name calling . I was stating the facts, People should think before they make any statement.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

You can continue to support your post, I'm going to continue to support the Moderator's decision to remove it.

I would prefer to continue any discussion regarding it via PM or email, for the sake of keeping the thread on-topic...

Alex

It depends what era the A310 was from, the late A310's did have FBW I think..?

Aeroplanes crash, you take that risk every time you get on one, let alone getting in your car to drive to the airport, were the chance of you being killed is many times more.

Airbus is just having a bad run, Boeing has had the same, and will again in the future. It is unfortunate, but such is life.

Alex wrote:

QUOTE (Alex @ Jul 2 2009, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

You can continue to support your post, I'm going to continue to support the Moderator's decision to remove it.

I would prefer to continue any discussion regarding it via PM or email, for the sake of keeping the thread on-topic...

Alex

Alex I come with peace