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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:22 am
by happytraveller
Saw this story on the BBC news site about a Swedish man who has flown for 13 years and has over 10 000 hours without a license. Interesting how he got away with it so long. Seem to remember the Tom Hanks film "Catch Me If You Can" which had something like this in.

Full story here:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8549954.stm

Smooth landings. (with or without license).

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:18 pm
by Ian Warren
Guess the guy was so 'Happy' biggrin.gif playing aeroplanes , i keep my eyes on the news tonight , be interested see if it gets attention here .

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:13 pm
by deaneb
Obviously he had plenty of flying skill to pull of such a fake. In some regards its almost more impressive that he could do that without the requisite certification, than if he had gone thru the training. Also 10,000 hrs in 13 years sounds a bit exaggerated for an airline pilot IMHO.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:45 pm
by Ian Warren
Deane , just yappin about here , i think if proved he has not harmed and is capable , they should simply get him a job , in saying that , their is no excuse winkyy.gif - for you newbie budding aviator s out there to try this ... me on the other hand ninja.gif I am .... 'James' .... Ian James Warren ..... 'Airline pilot' rolleyes.gif

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:32 pm
by deaneb
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Mar 5 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
me on the other hand ninja.gif I am .... 'James' .... Ian James Warren ..... 'Airline pilot' rolleyes.gif

And his passengers were shaken ..... but not stirred !!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:52 pm
by Ian Warren
deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Mar 5 2010, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And his passengers were shaken ..... but not stirred !!

Arr quiet .. No. 24

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:25 pm
by Splitpin
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Mar 5 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Deane , just yappin about here , i think if proved he has not harmed and is capable , they should simply get him a job , in saying that , their is no excuse winkyy.gif - for you newbie budding aviator s out there to try this ... me on the other hand ninja.gif I am .... 'James' .... Ian James Warren ..... 'Airline pilot' rolleyes.gif

I agree Ian, he cant do any worse than some of those we are hearing about now "drinking problems" "taking off on "taxiways" kids in the control tower....what the hell is going on with these people.....was a time when there were things called standards.......i guess its to hard to spell these days. angry.gif

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:41 pm
by deaneb
Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Mar 5 2010, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
was a time when there were things called standards.......i guess its to hard to spell these days. angry.gif


You know what - despite some sensationalist journalism - I actually think standards are as good, if not better than they were in days gone by. You will never eliminate "issues" so long as humans are involved. I bet there were still boozed pilots 40 or 50 years ago. Pilots could even smoke in the cockpit back then too !!
I watched closeup lastnight specifiically to see how the heck Rob Fyffe could justify the drinking. His argument and answers were outstanding and I have the utmost respect for how he handled what was potentially a media beatup.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:57 pm
by Splitpin
Deane, your right....i retract that last statement......"sensationalist journalism " is all it is. Just seems to be a lot of it about at the moment.
Regarding smoking in the cockpit, i have a great pic of my father smoking (as captain) on the flight deck of a TEAL Electra.....and recalling some of his memories, i think times have changed.(for the better)
We are victims of of these 'wannabe' journos out looking for blood.

Full retraction offered.....

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:00 am
by deaneb
Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Mar 5 2010, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Full retraction offered.....


Hey no need for a full retraction. Things have changed over the years. Some standards are better now, but others are probably less so. What annoys me about journos is they have this crazy fascination with aviation and safety. We don't here about the Ferry captain or bus driver with drinking problems do we.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:22 pm
by Splitpin
deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Mar 6 2010, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey no need for a full retraction. Things have changed over the years. Some standards are better now, but others are probably less so. What annoys me about journos is they have this crazy fascination with aviation and safety. We don't here about the Ferry captain or bus driver with drinking problems do we.

No we dont, thats true......i have had a bit to do with one of those industries you mentioned, and trust me.....it would be "breaking news" 24/7 if some of that stuff ever came to light. ninja.gif Third world procedures and attitude toward saftey....just to save a buck or two, it is a complete culture based on money and bulls**t.
I didnt last long , the Airforce made me into something those sort of people dont want to know about.....I'll stop there, otherwise i end up like Mr Warren...and Wigram. tongue.gif

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:27 pm
by Ian Warren
Wigram , Wigram let me tell you all about WIGRAM! rolleyes.gif

PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:42 pm
by Splitpin
Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Mar 6 2010, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wigram , Wigram let me tell you all about WIGRAM! rolleyes.gif

unsure.gif opps....sorry, didnt mean to push the button..........