Massey Aviation Degree

[bennz]

HI everyone,

I have been thinking for a while to do Massey's Postgrad Diploma in Aviation extramurally. My Bachelor is in IT but I have decided I want to move into aviation industry.
However I am not sure if spending over $6000 on a degree will give me that much of opportunity to get into aviation.

Massey's Aviation PostGrad Dip is focusing on business and Systematic aspects of aviation. Has any one done this course or knows someone who has done it ? So I can get some feedback.
I am not thinking to become a pilot but more to be involved in business aspect of Aviation.


Appreciate any advice : )

[markll]

QUOTE (bennz @ May 27 2010, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

HI everyone,

I have been thinking for a while to do Massey's Postgrad Diploma in Aviation extramurally. My Bachelor is in IT but I have decided I want to move into aviation industry.
However I am not sure if spending over $6000 on a degree will give me that much of opportunity to get into aviation.

Massey's Aviation PostGrad Dip is focusing on business and Systematic aspects of aviation. Has any one done this course or knows someone who has done it ? So I can get some feedback.
I am not thinking to become a pilot but more to be involved in business aspect of Aviation.


Appreciate any advice : )

Not sure about the post grad one, but I have a mate who did the Batchelor of Aviation through Massey. He works as a software tester now, and never actually worked in the Aviation industry, cos the pay was darnation and he had to support a family. So I guess it probably depends on your circumstances exactly what you can handle pay wise, but if you're in IT now, you can pretty much count on taking a decent pay cut once you start at the bottom in Aviation.

Just my 2c, and it's secondhand at that, so take it how you will!

[bennz]

Thanks for your reply.

I have been thinking in the same way. In IT I am getting paid around $50Per Hour while in aviation I will be getting around $25 or $40 top (in management).
Even though I truly want to study aviation but I guess I have to be logical and see the circumstances : (

[Ian Warren]

Now were do i sign up for a job that will pay me 50 Dollars an hour .. come to think .. In the real world .. 25 at the top 40 .. .............. an hour


Now witch Virtual world game are you playing now ?

[towerguy]

$25 - $40 per hour
damned if I'm taking a pay cut !

you want to sign up for ATC! an IT background would help - depends somewhat on age etc and getting past the Mor@ns in the HR department that wouldn't know ATC from VCR or LOL but if you can swing that and get through the training then it's a good job and one of the better remunerated aviation ones at that.
cheers

[bennz]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 28 2010, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now were do i sign up for a job that will pay me 50 Dollars an hour .. come to think .. In the real world .. 25 at the top 40 .. .............. an hour


Now witch Virtual world game are you playing now ?

Well if you do IT Contracts the rate starts from $40 to $60 per hour depending on what you do. It is not any virtual world : )
And I asked few people who are working in business department of few airlines ( non NZ ) and the rate they are getting starts from $25 per hour to $40, they work as middle managers

[bennz]

QUOTE (towerguy @ May 28 2010, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

$25 - $40 per hour
damned if I'm taking a pay cut !

you want to sign up for ATC! an IT background would help - depends somewhat on age etc and getting past the Mor@ns in the HR department that wouldn't know ATC from VCR or LOL but if you can swing that and get through the training then it's a good job and one of the better remunerated aviation ones at that.
cheers

I am not really interested in ATC, although I appreciate the job and respect all the ATC staff, it is a hard job but not the field I want to be working in.

[Ian Warren]

HR says a lot , they like the look off ya , ya in , they don,t - One thing with HR , they do nothing other than doing something .. Paper shifting Mor@ns and for some reason these Brown nosed idiots get payed that extra ......... but hey , look at the colour of his tongue !

[bennz]

What this topic has to do with HR?
In every industry, there are many elements which determine how much you are getting per hour? and trust me in IT looks are the least important issue for employers

[Ian Warren]

That,s what you will be , HR , later years HF

[towerguy]

why would you want to be management anyway? wouldn't you rather be something useful instead?

[bennz]

I didn't say I want to be in the management necessarily, I mentioned I am interested to be involved in the Business aspect of aviation and airline industry.
I guess there is no one from here with that level of professionalism to be able to answer me.. I didn't ask for nagging but for some proper advice.

[greaneyr]

QUOTE (bennz @ May 30 2010, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I didn't say I want to be in the management necessarily, I mentioned I am interested to be involved in the Business aspect of aviation and airline industry.
I guess there is no one from here with that level of professionalism to be able to answer me.. I didn't ask for nagging but for some proper advice.

Hi Ben

Strikingly similar circumstance to you here. I work in IT and have a bachelors degree, and a few years back toyed with studying the PostGrad Diploma in Aviation, with a view to head into management. Reason being that, if I could write my ticket I'd have gotten into either piloting or ATC but due to uncorrectable eyesight in one eye, that race was over before it began. I've always wanted to work in the industry, but without starting off through one of those two channels, things were tough so I figured I'd need some fairly compelling cards in order to appeal to any prospective employer.

However, I decided against doing the course for a few reasons:

1. I live in Palmerston North and a move into the business side of aviation would almost certainly mean a move outside my city, which wasn't something that really appealed to me
2. Postgrad study is not cheap, and I'd need to know there are some high odds in my favour as far as landing a decent job
3. I could be wrong, but I still think to make it in aviation they want you to have a background in either piloting, engineering, or ATC. If you don't have any of those three, then I imagine you'd need to have a wealth of business experience utilising the same skills as the job you are applying for. I work in management these days, but it's still very much 'operations management' so there isn't really a lot of overlap between this and aviation.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Richard

[gojozoom]

Oh no bennz! You shared the big IT secret about our salary! From now on they'll call us cheap bastards whenever we'll try to download a freeware add-on...

[bennz]

Thanks Richard for your reply.

You have made very valid points and I have come to the same conclusion. Simply with a uni degree in aviation there is not much of a chance to get into aviation business. I asked many people who are working in the industry. They mentioned most of them never done any aviation degree before they join the airline. But airline sent them to few short courses and that was all they needed!

QUOTE (greaneyr @ Jun 7 2010, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hi Ben

Strikingly similar circumstance to you here. I work in IT and have a bachelors degree, and a few years back toyed with studying the PostGrad Diploma in Aviation, with a view to head into management. Reason being that, if I could write my ticket I'd have gotten into either piloting or ATC but due to uncorrectable eyesight in one eye, that race was over before it began. I've always wanted to work in the industry, but without starting off through one of those two channels, things were tough so I figured I'd need some fairly compelling cards in order to appeal to any prospective employer.

However, I decided against doing the course for a few reasons:

1. I live in Palmerston North and a move into the business side of aviation would almost certainly mean a move outside my city, which wasn't something that really appealed to me
2. Postgrad study is not cheap, and I'd need to know there are some high odds in my favour as far as landing a decent job
3. I could be wrong, but I still think to make it in aviation they want you to have a background in either piloting, engineering, or ATC. If you don't have any of those three, then I imagine you'd need to have a wealth of business experience utilising the same skills as the job you are applying for. I work in management these days, but it's still very much 'operations management' so there isn't really a lot of overlap between this and aviation.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Richard

Ohhhh... Damn!

QUOTE (gojozoom @ Jun 11 2010, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh no bennz! You shared the big IT secret about our salary! From now on they'll call us cheap bastards whenever we'll try to download a freeware add-on...