Air NZ A320 crash investigation news?

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Postby bennz » Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:24 am

I'm just wondering has the cause of the accident been identified for the Air NZ A320 crashed in Europe?
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Postby HamiltonWest » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:33 am

by Looks of this from the French accident investigation's website NO last update interim report feb 2009:

Accident on approach to Perpignan
Press release, 24 February 2009
The BEA has just published an Interim Report in the context of its investigation into the accident that occurred off the coast of Canet-Plage on 27 November 2008 to the Airbus A320 registered D-AXLA. The aeroplane, operated by XL Airways Germany, was performing a non-revenue flight that departed from Perpignan-Rivesaltes aerodrome. This flight, planned in the leasing agreement, included a programme of checks to be performed before the return of the aeroplane to Air New Zealand.


The progress report, strictly factual, contains the information established at this stage of the investigation, without any analysis. The report shows, specifically, that since the flight was shortened, a check at low speed planned at altitude was undertaken during the approach to Perpignan. It was during this check that the crew lost control of the aeroplane, which crashed into the sea.


The interim report contains a recommendation to the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) aimed at reinforcing the regulatory requirements related to the preparation and execution of non-revenue flights. The investigation in fact showed that in the almost complete absence of indications or standards, a wide variety of descriptions by operators of these flights was found, both in their performance and in the selection and training of pilots.


The interim report is available on the BEA site
http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2008/d-la081127...a081127e.en.pdf

http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/perpignan/...ebruary2009.php

accident reports Index - only lists interim report as it feb 2009
http://www.bea.aero/en/publications/rappor....php?annee=2008
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Postby HamiltonWest » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:10 pm

Decision due on possible charges over Air NZ crash

Full News Item Here:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/386505...er-Air-NZ-crash
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Postby markll » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 pm

Yeah, so just to clarify, the results of the Judicial investigation (to determine whether there is a criminal case to answer) have been released, not the Accident investigation by the french equivalent of our TAIC. Seems odd to me that they would do it that way round - surely the BEA accident investigation report should be final before they could decide on the criminal liability of any involved party?
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:04 am

I would be looking at the Airbus . Not the pilots , dead people cannot speak - its a to easy excuse a 'point finge'r , i think there is more to this than what we really get told , got a gut feeling on this one and on the norm i have been prity close , some so close , in the avaiton industry but current lie and decete in my work place , company and people with power dictate and close books to save what they have at expense .. you and ME ! ... but then media , hell a true answer .. nah , all jibber jabber

It s wake up people , smell the coffee .... they want a sweepout , a rug and plenty off ocean !
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Postby cowpatz » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:50 am

Yes no surprises from the French here. Just remember that Airbus is their major industry and employs tens of thousands. There are a lot of unanswered questions. Yes the crew MAY have been unwise to conduct a slow speed test at 3000 ft during a busy phase of flight, however maybe the speed was never intended to get that low. They were testing a system that the Airbus should have protected them from (in fact Airbus flight laws and philosophies are based around this very thing sort of thing NOT happening).
There should be one hell of a lot more focus on why this aircraft did not perform as it was certified to do. With an increase in the reliance on fly by wire and fully automated systems there needs to be absolute confidence in their reliability. Two airbus aircraft have crashed into the sea with controllability issues. The true cause needs to be known as the lives of many may depend on it. Now that the French obsession with prosecuting is just about over the technical aspects can come under closer scrutiny.
Remember the 50-50-90 rule. Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong!

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Postby bennz » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:02 pm

Yes French always try to blame others ! Remember that they found the static sensors had some issues. For sure they didn't mention what was it.

I doubt it is pilot's fault, if the sensors providing the wrong information, how the pilots could know there were flying too low ? Plane couldn't be in bank angle if the engines were responsive and indicators were accurate.

It is disgusting to charge criminally the dead people whom can't defend themselves !
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Postby twinstarda42 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:54 pm

Final Air NZ crash report due on Friday

A final accident report will be released on Friday into the 2008 Air New Zealand crash off France's Mediterranean coast.

Paris-based Bureau d'Enquetes et d'Analyses (BEA) has announced that the final report on the crash would be available from 4pm Paris time on Thursday (2am Friday New Zealand time).

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article....jectid=10673316
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Postby ZKNBA » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:06 pm

Final report is now available:


http://www.bea.aero/en/enquetes/perpignan/perpignan.php


RIP to those who lost their lives
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