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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:20 am
by Charl
I've never been comfortable as an airline passenger out of Queenstown.
Not incoming, funnily enough, just out.
There's always an issue, somehow.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6529067/Pi...enstown-takeoff

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:52 am
by cowpatz
This should never have gone to court. I have no idea why CAA have pursued it to the degree that they have. Muscle flexing me thinks and one which significantly erodes the regulators relationship with it's "clients".

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:22 pm
by Adamski
cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Mar 6 2012,8:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This should never have gone to court. I have no idea why CAA have pursued it to the degree that they have. Muscle flexing me thinks and one which significantly erodes the regulators relationship with it's "clients".

I'm intrigued as to why they're charging the *pilot*. Shouldn't they be charging the airline?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:27 pm
by chopper_nut
The Campaign Against Aviation strikes again.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:41 pm
by ZK-MAT
I'm comfortable with someone being charged if they breach a rule. He broke the rule and departed too late, didn't he?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:50 pm
by Adamski
ZK-MAT wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Mar 6 2012,2:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm comfortable with someone being charged if they breach a rule. He broke the rule and departed too late, didn't he?

Depends on what the rule is - apparently, he was going by Pacblue operating procedures <???>.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:33 pm
by SA227
There is no rule, however you do have to abide by what ever your company exposition says so we shall see what happens.
CAA now have a policy of using the big stick rather than waving it about, whether that is a good or bad thing I guess depends on the situation.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:06 pm
by Charl
cowpatz wrote:
QUOTE (cowpatz @ Mar 6 2012,8:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...Muscle flexing me thinks
The facts are going to come out in court, which is important.

As I said, I've had some "Strange" experiences leaving Queenstown.
I knew we were all going to die, the day a Qantas 737 delayed and delayed its take-off, then took off into a descending cloud base and dwindling light.
He decided he couldn't get out after all, and then flew figures-of-eight with us under the cloud, ever lower.
He eventually burned off enough fuel to get down to landing weight, and duly and quickly did.
I want him in court, too...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:55 pm
by Bazza
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Mar 6 2012,6:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The facts are going to come out in court, which is important.


This is the whole point of the exercise. The matter has been forwarded to the appropriate tribunal to assess the matter. I'm sure the decision to go
ahead was taken after a lot of examination and research and any emotional opinions from people outside the loop doesn't help anything.

Wait and see....?