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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:27 am
by Charl
On a trip through Otago last week, we stopped in at Omarama.
A visit to the Gliding Mecca of the World was a long-held dream for me, well-experienced in the flight simulator.

Three months of drought, and then we arrived! The weather looked decidedly iffy: rain the night before, and another front rolling in from the southwest.
We had only the Saturday, and so waited through the afternoon for the tiniest sign of a thermal or breeze.
Finally at 3 o’clock the tow plane took us up to 5,500 ft and we cruised the ridges on puffs of air that you might not feel on your cheek, if you were walking it.



With a 42:1 glide ratio the Duo Discus had a lot to do with the experience which was totally thrilling.
Sometimes you felt you could reach out and touch the rock wall as the aircraft sniffed the updraft.

I’m used to a much older and noisier glider, this machine is in a class of its own.
Very quiet, fully instrumented, and twitchy as hell.
My hamhanded stick inputs initially produced a series of spiral yo-yo’s as I tried to fly the course.
I finally settled down, flying with thumb and forefinger delicately on stick, and minute rudder input.
A real thoroughbred.

Much too soon, we had to return to base.



I will return there in the spring one day, they fly 500km legs as a matter of course when the weather is right.
Highly recommended.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:55 pm
by happytraveller
Aerosoft make a neat model of the Discus glider, an interesting challenge even in FSX.

Seeing the photos and reading the description, I must try the gliders at Omarama, driven past them so many times so will add it onto the list now.

smooth landings.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:09 pm
by Naki
That looks like great fun.... Are you heading to Classic Fighters or are you back up North? I thought that top right hand picture was from Flight Sim!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:58 pm
by AlisterC
Very nice, thanks for the trip report Charl. Sounds like a bucket list entry to me!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:31 pm
by deeknow
Very Jealous Charl... looks awesome... as per Alister going for a glider flight is on my bucket list too.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:19 am
by ardypilot
Sitting around waiting for the weather to clear enough to fly? Welcome to my world, and guess what I'm doing right now! tongue.gif

Cool montage though, love seeing shots from the Makenzie Basin, especially from the sky. Just a tiny bit more scenic than Durey.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:43 am
by Splitpin
thumbup1.gif Great set Charl .

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:01 am
by toprob
Certainly on my bucket-list, but whenever I visit Omarama I'm always tearing off somewhere, or coming back from somewhere and just wanting to get home. Maybe time to slow down a bit.
That's a magic line -- 'and we cruised the ridges on puffs of air that you might not feel on your cheek, if you were walking it.' Pure poetry.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:11 pm
by Charl
It was a magic day… I’d looked forward to it for so long there was no way we were not going up.
I’ve done a fair bit of gliding, mostly Drury, where you are boxed to 3,000 ft by NZAA, and Ardmore next door.
No such limitations at Omarama: it’s the biggest playground, totally unfettered. One of the pilots mentioned, in 10 years he’d only once had use of his transponder. And they routinely cruise off to Milford Sound and other distant places, just for an outing.

Bucket list: yes Classic Fighters was meant to be part of the trip but it didn’t work out this year unfortunately. Definitely to-do, along with Flying Legends.

Paul: the montage is just a clutch of video screen grabs so agree it does have the look of a screenshot! I shot really poor footage too, because for once I decided to experience it in the moment, rather than in the edit back home…

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:55 pm
by scaber
Thanks for sharing these Charl. I spent many happy days down there over a number of years in my twenties before children and education got in the way. You've brought back some fond memories for me - maybe I should install a glider into FSX and do some virtual ridge and thermal soaring back there again. biggrin.gif

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:58 pm
by Charl
Well I was driven to the sim - my FS9 doesn't have photoreal coverage here, although I do have a superb Duo Discus with a built-in winch launch.
Vaguely remembering FSX did better, I scratched around and popped a screen:



Greg, you have NZSI? I'd like to see if it convinces more, maybe a screen please?
Perhaps I'll show Aerosoft some plastic money if it's good, and load that Discus HT talks about...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:21 pm
by HamiltonWest
Great Pics Charl look's like a great experience smile.gif .

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:53 pm
by scaber
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Mar 30 2013,3:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Greg, you have NZSI? I'd like to see if it convinces more, maybe a screen please?
Perhaps I'll show Aerosoft some plastic money if it's good, and load that Discus HT talks about...



Ok Charl, glad to help. The trouble is I can't stop at one screen shot . . . .

The last one is so you can set yours to the same settings for a more accurate comparison...

















PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:50 pm
by happytraveller
And to show how good the Aerosoft Discus is.....a few screenshots from me too.....





Hard though to get used to the very flat approach if you are used to powered aircraft, and also to remember to lead with a little rudder for the turns.

smooth landings.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:12 pm
by scaber
happytraveller wrote:
QUOTE (happytraveller @ Mar 30 2013,9:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And to show how good the Aerosoft Discus is.....a few screenshots from me too.....

Hard though to get used to the very flat approach if you are used to powered aircraft, and also to remember to lead with a little rudder for the turns.

smooth landings.



Wow, at first I thought that this was real world. Must look into that a bit more closely. I relived some nice memories in today's virtual flight. I was most impressed how efficient the new machines are compared with what I was flying many years ago - I could stooge around for ages and not have to worry too much about getting back to the field. Lovely stuff!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:22 pm
by happytraveller
And if anybody is thinking of really trying out gliding in FSX then have a look at this add-on :

http://www.luerkens.homepage.t-online.de/peter/

so that you can enhance the ridge lift and thermals and get a more true to life FSX gliding experience.

smooth landings.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:58 am
by scaber
happytraveller wrote:
QUOTE (happytraveller @ Mar 31 2013,12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And if anybody is thinking of really trying out gliding in FSX then have a look at this add-on :

http://www.luerkens.homepage.t-online.de/peter/

so that you can enhance the ridge lift and thermals and get a more true to life FSX gliding experience.

smooth landings.



Thanks for sharing, I had this years ago but had lost it. Downloading now. thumbup1.gif

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:41 am
by Charl
Thanks for the pics guys, amazing you could replicate that shot, Greg!

QUOTE
...also to remember to lead with a little rudder for the turns[/quote]
Yes! I found it all too easy to yaw the thing in the bank - I guess that's why, despite all the electronic gadgetry, there's still a little woollen strand glued onto the canopy!

German software eh? I'll grit my teeth and give it a whirl, thanks for the link.

EDIT:
OK all working now (there's an update to the Aerosoft release), pretty good approximation of what I experienced on the day, including ridge lift! Off to play, then.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:10 pm
by Ian Warren
They are Friggen Great returns to the jet sounding windy willows of my only eight or so hours , Brilliant Charl ... Greg .. the FS screens to capture Friggen Brilliant ! cool.gif

PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:06 pm
by scaber
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Mar 31 2013,11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the pics guys, amazing you could replicate that shot, Greg!

EDIT:
OK all working now (there's an update to the Aerosoft release), pretty good approximation of what I experienced on the day, including ridge lift! Off to play, then.


Yeah, I'm clever that way. Sometimes I'm so clever that I forget who I am and start to get all carried away!! Probably this is a reflection of having spent too many days/years down that way....


Does this Aerosoft model lean over to the side at the end of the roll out after landing? The only ones I've tried remain upright which destroys the experience a little. Ok, it doesn't destroy it at all really, just not the nice ending I wanted!