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The Carenado Beech 1900D seemed to be equipped with an FMC, but have original BEEch 1900D this also?

Andreas, Were yet to here from our in-house real deal flyer James AKA"goingboeing"

hey guys haven't had a chance to try out the carenado beast yet, our beeches don't have autopilot or FMC and our GPS units are much older than the ones on the carenado screenshots.
aside from that apart from small differences it looks pretty darn good, shame you can't remove the coat locker and add an extra seat as well

As GB says there's no AP (apparently an optional extra for the BEH?), I think the GPS is a Bendix King model 90B or something, pic of a Eagle panel here...

This GPS unit is used in the Aerosoft Catalina and the Flight1 BN-2 Islander, so the 2D panel version of those could be brought over to the Beech if you have them.

goingboeing wrote:

QUOTE (goingboeing @ Jan 9 2014,9:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hey guys haven't had a chance to try out the carenado beast yet, our beeches don't have autopilot or FMC

Real Mans Flying - RMF , I can guess many prefer ripping around in a son of a beech rather than FMCs and update GPSs, is that a confirm with the RMF.

Dean, great posting the cockpit photo

Wow, surprised to learn that you guys don't have autopilots in your 1900s! Is that across the whole fleet, or do some planes have varying equipment?

Also, what are your typical cruising altitudes for various route lengths? I know the ceiling is listed as FL250, so I'm assuming it's somewhere in the FL190 to FL220 range?

Just trying to get a sense of both typical distances 1900s are used on, and cruising altitudes....heck anything else worth knowing too! I've been on some Dash-8-100s for various routes in the US that have stayed at or below 10,000 feet (flight times between 20 and 45 minutes), so....just curious.

Standard equipment across the entire fleet. Lack of autopilots is a weight issue. It was either that or the toilet.
Cruising levels anything from 8k to 25k.

scon wrote:

QUOTE (scon @ Jan 9 2014,3:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It was either that or the toilet.

Oh Shite ... well someone had to say it

SeanTK wrote:

QUOTE (SeanTK @ Jan 9 2014,3:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Wow, surprised to learn that you guys don't have autopilots in your 1900s! Is that across the whole fleet, or do some planes have varying equipment?

Also, what are your typical cruising altitudes for various route lengths? I know the ceiling is listed as FL250, so I'm assuming it's somewhere in the FL190 to FL220 range?

Just trying to get a sense of both typical distances 1900s are used on, and cruising altitudes....heck anything else worth knowing too! I've been on some Dash-8-100s for various routes in the US that have stayed at or below 10,000 feet (flight times between 20 and 45 minutes), so....just curious.

According to an RNZAF King Air Pilot Air New Zealands Beech 1900Ds are some of the oldest in the world? maybe this is why they have no AP?

Dash8captain wrote:

QUOTE (Dash8captain @ Jan 9 2014,6:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

According to an RNZAF King Air Pilot Air New Zealands Beech 1900Ds are some of the oldest in the world? maybe this is why they have no AP?

I thought they were the last off the production line?

They are

I thought that it was a cost thing rather than a weight issue?

EAP is the last one off the line

Lindstrim wrote:

QUOTE (Lindstrim @ Jan 10 2014,7:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I thought that it was a cost thing rather than a weight issue?

Welcome aboard 'Lindstrim' Yeah! bloody hell why pay the pilots if they are to just sit there twiddling their and enjoy the view , get em to work for a living

Interesting... Today Iam 50 and still learning...

It's a cost issue. Very few of Eagle's routes are longer than 1-1.5 hours and the B1900 is a very stable aircraft to fly so it's an unnecessary expense for Eagle. I'll be starting a new job shortly in Aus in the 1900, some of ours have no AP and there are some routes in excess of 2 hours that they fly - should be interesting!

And you forgot to say Tom , its a lot more fun hands on , what its all about !

Cost and weight. As VAC said why take the penalty when the sector length is so short.
Not sure where the airforce guys are getting there info from. Age wouldn't have anything to do with it, plenty of 80's KingAirs around with AP's. And, yes, Eagle's are the last of the production line, finishing with P. Q and R are second hand with no toilet and no AP.

My understanding was the need for the Eagle 1900's to have a toilet on board was a Star Alliance requirement?

Trolly wrote:

QUOTE (Trolly @ Jan 13 2014,2:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

a Star Alliance requirement?

Oh cr@p ! can't people hang on ... STINK !