Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:03 pmRumour floating around that the RNZAf is signing a contract tomorrow for new Texans (maybe they will be called Harvards in N Z like the Canadians do) replacing the CT 4 Es
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:03 pmPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:00 pmExciting! Look forward to some news tomorrow Thanks for heads up
Thanks for heads upPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:05 pmWow cool news, great machines, saw their demo at wan aka last year when it was doing the world tour
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:28 pmRumour's .. , weapons capable for the COIN help the troops is and would be possible or that type off training .. wonder why the change of heart .. Rumour's and politics caused the lost of any real tactical airborne strike .. talk has been on the table for a couple of years so again why the change of heart or maybe and would not be a bad idea have that company in Hamilton build .. Just a Rumour ..
THO I'd would be pleased ... its not April yet !
THO I'd would be pleased ... its not April yet !
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:41 pmHere's a pic I took on the day...
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:58 pmGreat photo Dean, wonder how come the press/media have not picked up on the deal ? .. course you in Hamilton .. and with PAC's ability it would be a real cue if these are Licence built for the region !
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:15 pmThey are a good looking machine ... but these are designed to train fast jet jocks arent they? , we dont have any, and i would think there are enough civi schools that could bring potential C-130 / P-3 candidates up to speed for much less cost.
Dont get me wrong , Im all for a big Air Force , but this seems a bit odd in light of the current situation. I would have thought that money (if it happens) would have been better spent on really establishing a coastal defense (Air) unit in line with our neighbors.
Our (NZ) maritime defense is very important , both economically and strategically, but mainly economic.... so it makes sense to pump money in that direction.
We have the KingAirs ..... why not use them as the conversion platform ? if their good enough to solo a CT-4 (by RNZAF over trained standards) Im sure they can get their heads around (with ground school) a turbine/multi course, and if not ..... send them to Oz to do it (Another option)
Just my thoughts.
Dont get me wrong , Im all for a big Air Force , but this seems a bit odd in light of the current situation. I would have thought that money (if it happens) would have been better spent on really establishing a coastal defense (Air) unit in line with our neighbors.
Our (NZ) maritime defense is very important , both economically and strategically, but mainly economic.... so it makes sense to pump money in that direction.
We have the KingAirs ..... why not use them as the conversion platform ? if their good enough to solo a CT-4 (by RNZAF over trained standards) Im sure they can get their heads around (with ground school) a turbine/multi course, and if not ..... send them to Oz to do it (Another option)
Just my thoughts.
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:56 pmThe King Airs and the CT-4s aren't the best to simulate low level flying (as per the Hercs and Orions in operational use) in NZ conditions plus the CT-4s are having structural (ie spar) problems...plus the Air Force is now a full glass and turboprop fleet which the CT-4s aren't.
Not a rumour deal is done 11 T-6s - first two this year.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=3
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_embassy_ne...in/photostream/
Not a rumour deal is done 11 T-6s - first two this year.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=3
http://www.flickr.com/photos/us_embassy_ne...in/photostream/
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:17 amThe 1st Link seems to be 100% credible 
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?.Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:09 amWing spar problems- crikey that explains why they are always close by to the Hamilton aeroplane hospital ... 11 only lets hope they increase the force.
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:25 amStill no official announcement from the MOD,....
Marty...here's an article that describes why the RNZAF want Turboprop single trainers , better than my brief description above
http://www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/2012/0...single-solution
Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?
http://www.irissimulations.com.au/hangar/f...s-t-6a-texan-ii
Marty...here's an article that describes why the RNZAF want Turboprop single trainers , better than my brief description above
http://www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/2012/0...single-solution
Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?
http://www.irissimulations.com.au/hangar/f...s-t-6a-texan-ii
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:35 amMOD Probably to scared to say anything, I think what going to happen the Airforce maybe turning up to a local aero club near you .... and maybe go back to the days of old were they have to pay for their own flight training to be part of the Not so Permanent Air Force 
Naki wrote:QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 25 2014,11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?
BUGGER Only have the Iris PC-9 ... Pooh!
Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:05 pmNaki wrote:QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 25 2014,11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Still no official announcement from the MOD,....
Marty...here's an article that describes why the RNZAF want Turboprop single trainers , better than my brief description above
http://www.pacificwingsmagazine.com/2012/0...single-solution
Time to reinstall the Iris Beech T-6? (freeware nowadays)....link below. Any RNZAF schemes out there for this?..also I thought I read somewhere they are releasing a new version of this?
http://www.irissimulations.com.au/hangar/f...s-t-6a-texan-ii
Cheers Naki ..... remember when you and i "re built" the Air Force ? we almost lined up . Wow , this is exciting stuff.
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:00 pmHaha yep...I had to find the thread and see what I had planned for trainers...I glad they went with my recommendations ....one short though!
There's some pics (and some official announcement links) of what the scheme looks like over at Wings over NZ. looks pretty cool in an all black scheme.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=6
14 Squadron is been reformed..wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?
It seems there will be no initial training on other types - the Texans will be used as an "all through training" platform.
....one short though! There's some pics (and some official announcement links) of what the scheme looks like over at Wings over NZ. looks pretty cool in an all black scheme.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=6
14 Squadron is been reformed..wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?
It seems there will be no initial training on other types - the Texans will be used as an "all through training" platform.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:43 amOfficial Press Release Here:
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-pil...ontract-awarded
http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-pil...ontract-awarded
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:40 amQUOTE
wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?[/quote]
Kiwi Black?
from HBC Press Release: Beechcraft Signs Contracts with Royal New Zealand Air Force for 11 T-6C Trainer Aircraft and Fully Integrated Flight Training Solution
The T-6C will replace the Pacific Aerospace CT-4E Airtrainer in the primary phase of the RNZAF Wings Course and FIC training role. It will replace the Beechcraft King Air B200 in the advanced phase of the Wings Course. The aircraft also will be flown by the RNZAF’s formation aerobatic display team made up of senior instructor pilots.
http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/news/...ining-solution/
http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/files...Zealand-T6C.jpg
Kiwi Black?
from HBC Press Release: Beechcraft Signs Contracts with Royal New Zealand Air Force for 11 T-6C Trainer Aircraft and Fully Integrated Flight Training Solution
The T-6C will replace the Pacific Aerospace CT-4E Airtrainer in the primary phase of the RNZAF Wings Course and FIC training role. It will replace the Beechcraft King Air B200 in the advanced phase of the Wings Course. The aircraft also will be flown by the RNZAF’s formation aerobatic display team made up of senior instructor pilots.
http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/news/...ining-solution/
http://newsroom.hawkerbeechcraft.com/files...Zealand-T6C.jpg
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:05 pmI still don't think 11 is enough ... the fly boys will fighting over them to have a play.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:37 pmConfirmed via RNZAF Facebook page - we'll take delivery of the first aircraft late this year.. They're not mucking around! Also, the confirmed paintscheme. I'm excited!
Facebook Post
Also, since you guys wanted to know.
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:47 pm
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:52 pm
Facebook Post
Also, since you guys wanted to know.
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The aircraft also will be flown by the RNZAF’s formation aerobatic display team made up of senior instructor pilots[/quote]
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The first four Beechcraft T-6C aircraft will be delivered to the RNZAF in November 2014. At that point, the air force will begin validation flying in preparation for integrating the aircraft into pilot training by mid-2015. All 11 T-6C aircraft will be delivered by mid-2015.[/quote]
From the Beechcraft Site
From the Beechcraft Site
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:47 pmtomkilpatrick wrote:QUOTE (tomkilpatrick @ Jan 28 2014,5:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Confirmed via RNZAF Facebook page - we'll take delivery of the first aircraft late this year.. They're not mucking around! Also, the confirmed paintscheme. I'm excited!
I think somebody might need to teach me how to resize these uh, images too, that's a bit overkill.
Also, since you guys wanted to know.
Hi Tom
Welcome to NZFF here is a good free image re sizer http://www.faststone.org/index.htm
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:52 pmGreat post , and welcome aboard . .... 
Naki wrote:QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 27 2014,11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Haha yep...I had to find the thread and see what I had planned for trainers...I glad they went with my recommendations
There's some pics (and some official announcement links) of what the scheme looks like over at Wings over NZ. looks pretty cool in an all black scheme.
http://rnzaf.proboards.com/thread/20601/ct...ruggling?page=6
14 Squadron is been reformed..wonder whether the Checkers will get to use these?
It seems there will be no initial training on other types - the Texans will be used as an "all through training" platform.
"the Texans will be used as an "all through training" platform" great idea .
Naki , i wonder if they (NZDEF) will run with my A-400 idea
