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Just shows ya the mentality of the POLYDICKS .. I did see this many years back thinking YIPPY only too be being reversed

For full screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Y8TSi6wr0

I'll forever be more right wing after what the labour government did to NZ

chopper_nut wrote:

QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Jan 6 2015,10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll forever be more right wing after what the labour government did to NZ

Its amazing the stupidity off both Gov,s .. the A4s waisted for nearly ten years .. in Blenheim in a paddock .. guess it the same with POLYCOCKS all over ... Lie cheat and steal .. as long as they get money in their pockets , the biggest thing and my real fuse .. and it is not just me is the closer of Wigram ... even 99.9 per cent would not know where the name came from .

Those A4s had basically past their airframe life I think so keeping them flying might have been a waste of money its a very old aircraft they've been around since the 70s here and prior to that 1956 was when they first started making them. The one choice that the government could have made was to get the F-16s when they had the chance as F-16s would have been ideal for NZ back then.

SUBS17 wrote:

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Jan 6 2015,11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

... past their airframe life ...

Doubt that very much - Brand Spanking New in 1970 - what a lot off people don't realise - the A4 wing was just one slab off aluminum making it very structurally sound - the avionics on board made it the best in the world - , a private firm now has a few them in the States , they say the best deal they ever got ... almost hear them saying SUCKERS ! .. F-16s would have been nice tho .. but just typical Gov and POLYCOCKS .

Sure it is an old airframe but so is the Herc, the P3 hell the 757 is 30 years old now. The Seppos are still operating the B52s.. that's seriously old gear now. Just because something's old, doesn't mean you throw it away.

chopper_nut wrote:

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Sure it is an old airframe but so is the Herc, the P3 hell the 757 is 30 years old now. The Seppos are still operating the B52s.. that's seriously old gear now. Just because something's old, doesn't mean you throw it away.

Marty was here the other day , pulled the C-130 book off the shelf .. for a starter confirmed the first RNZAF C-130 H 's date back to April 1965 , the first three production models ... so they are this year Fifty .. tho the two others arrived in 1968 ..

I could pull the history on the P3 .. best way of looking at it .... .... looking at the privately owned Warbirds in New Zealand - The bigger thing is how is it private individuals doing it better than the POLYCOCKS and away from POLYDICKS !

No the aircraft was way overdue to be replaced they've been around a long time even though the Kahu upgrade extended their life.

So? The B52 is older, the F4 is still in use in some parts of the world. As long as the airframe is safe and it is still capable of performing, which it was, then there is no reason to upgrade.

It is amazing how low hour the B-52s are - I'd probably say these 1960 hulls have not reached the 10,000, ... most commercial pilots have a little hallmark reaching the 10,000 hour mark , one thing with the SKYHAWK making them extra special and seriously durable was the one slab wing ... a modellers plastic kit-set is a good example of the engineering design , as time progressed the removal of the hump , the aircraft was well known for being very economical at ALT .

chopper_nut wrote:So? The B52 is older, the F4 is still in use in some parts of the world. As long as the airframe is safe and it is still capable of performing, which it was, then there is no reason to upgrade.

No they are not safe because after a while such aircraft are more prone to accidents with things breaking which can be very dangerous to pilots and people on the ground. Once something has reached the end of its service life then it should be replaced.

Ian Warren wrote:It is amazing how low hour the B-52s are - I'd probably say these 1960 hulls have not reached the 10,000, ... most commercial pilots have a little hallmark reaching the 10,000 hour mark , one thing with the SKYHAWK making them extra special and seriously durable was the one slab wing ... a modellers plastic kit-set is a good example of the engineering design , as time progressed the removal of the hump , the aircraft was well known for being very economical at ALT .

B52s would have clocked up a lot of hours due to the long range missions particularly during the cold war where they had to fly ready to do the business at a moments notice for SAC.

SUBS17 wrote:

Ian Warren wrote:It is amazing how low hour the B-52s are - I'd probably say these 1960 hulls have not reached the 10,000, ... most commercial pilots have a little hallmark reaching the 10,000 hour mark , one thing with the SKYHAWK making them extra special and seriously durable was the one slab wing ... a modellers plastic kit-set is a good example of the engineering design , as time progressed the removal of the hump , the aircraft was well known for being very economical at ALT .

B52s would have clocked up a lot of hours due to the long range missions particularly during the cold war where they had to fly ready to do the business at a moments notice for SAC.

You be surprised , a lot of the fleet, the Gs and H's in 2000, make 1961 s had only accumulated 16,000 hours give or take .. the earlier D,E,F were put into spare parts , they had only clocked around 8.000 hours .. the serious SAC cold war period ... 90% of the time they were on standby ready to go on the ground and only a few on a aerial rotation, the busiest the Strats got was Vietnam .