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Here. Would I be right in saying if this were restored, it would be the ONLY airworthy German built BF-109 in the world?

Maybe everyone can pitch in a couple of bucks

Well, i can pretty safely say that it would be the only airworthy E model, if it were restored... The last airworthy 109 (a real one, not the Spanish Buchons) was a G model, known as Black 6 on the airshow circuit. From memory it had an engine failure a couple of years back and got bent pretty bad

Alfashark wrote:

QUOTE (Alfashark @ Nov 27 2007, 04:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, i can pretty safely say that it would be the only airworthy E model, if it were restored... The last airworthy 109 (a real one, not the Spanish Buchons) was a G model, known as Black 6 on the airshow circuit. From memory it had an engine failure a couple of years back and got bent pretty bad

Yes, it was restored to airworthy condition by the RAF, and had the accident in the last planned flying season before retiring to display (due to the risk if such an incident occured and was destroyed.
It has since been again fully restored and is displayed at the RAF Hendon museum.

and yip the 109 E flying in the states is a convert buchon, although the 2 airworthy G models are composite rebuilds from original 109s.

Haha good to see my memory still filters out the important stuff from the everyday garbage Got me thinking about the new-build FW-190's that are appearing... http://www.flugwerk.de
Their main claim to authenticity is the fact that they use N.O.S parts such as the tail assembly and a few other components, as well as fresh components built per original blueprints. Really love to get my hands on one of those And for those of you with a thing for turbine power, hows about the Me 262 resto/replicas... http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html

omg... love that Me-262...

as for the 109... I was a little confused, as according to the website it was shot down... but there seems to be very little damage... perhaps 2 or 3 holes in the rear fuselage??!?

Hits in the engine, wouldn't try starting it anytime soon.

That's in remarkably complete condition, given the state most WWII era aircraft are in these days prior to restoration.

Apparently it was shot down over a frozen lake in Russia, did a perfect wheels up landing and sunk through the ice and to the lake bed. Found in about 2003 I think.

Fauville wrote:

QUOTE (Fauville @ Nov 27 2007, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, it was restored to airworthy condition by the RAF, and had the accident in the last planned flying season before retiring to display (due to the risk if such an incident occured and was destroyed.
It has since been again fully restored and is displayed at the RAF Hendon museum.

and yip the 109 E flying in the states is a convert buchon, although the 2 airworthy G models are composite rebuilds from original 109s.

I went out to Hendon while the family was visiting the father in law in Australia in June this year.



Massive collection of planes, just a pitty you cant see them all in their natural habitat (the air).

Regards

Mailman

mailman wrote:

QUOTE (mailman @ Nov 25 2007, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I went out to Hendon while the family was visiting the father in law in Australia in June this year.

Massive collection of planes, just a pitty you cant see them all in their natural habitat (the air).

Regards

Mailman

is that original and is that zero in the background original too ? (by original I mean not replicas)

Fauville wrote:

QUOTE (Fauville @ Nov 22 2007, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, it was restored to airworthy condition by the RAF, and had the accident in the last planned flying season before retiring to display (due to the risk if such an incident occured and was destroyed.
It has since been again fully restored and is displayed at the RAF Hendon museum.

and yip the 109 E flying in the states is a convert buchon, although the 2 airworthy G models are composite rebuilds from original 109s.

Right, see here!!!! Where did you read that? Converted Buchon?! Eh?

Ed Russell's Canada-based E-7 is as authentic as a restored aircraft can get! And I don't meant just that it has a Daimler-Benz up front.....it was restored by Craig Charleston, who also restored the Flying Heritage Collection E......which Sir Tim Wallis owned at one point.

Yes, Black 6 was the last original G flying, but both the Es are real. Messerschmitt-built. German in origin.
AND NOT BUCHONS!!!!!!!

You are a silly, silly person. Ende.



btw just wanted to set you straight nothing personal. Other conditions may apply.

A185F wrote:

QUOTE (A185F @ Nov 30 2007, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

is that original and is that zero in the background original too ? (by original I mean not replicas)

I may be wrong, but I think that may actually be a Nakajima Ki-84, not a Zero.

K5054NZ wrote:

QUOTE (K5054NZ @ Nov 30 2007, 06:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Right, see here!!!! Where did you read that? Converted Buchon?! Eh?

Ed Russell's Canada-based E-7 is as authentic as a restored aircraft can get! And I don't meant just that it has a Daimler-Benz up front.....it was restored by Craig Charleston, who also restored the Flying Heritage Collection E......which Sir Tim Wallis owned at one point.

Yes, Black 6 was the last original G flying, but both the Es are real. Messerschmitt-built. German in origin.
AND NOT BUCHONS!!!!!!!

You are a silly, silly person. Ende.



btw just wanted to set you straight nothing personal. Other conditions may apply.

Shouldn't believe everything I read on the web, I stand corrected

FlyingKiwi wrote:

QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Dec 1 2007, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I may be wrong, but I think that may actually be a Nakajima Ki-84, not a Zero.

Kawasaki Ki-100b, only one still existing.
Hendon Website

A185F wrote:

QUOTE (A185F @ Nov 30 2007, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

is that original and is that zero in the background original too ? (by original I mean not replicas)

The plane in question is original and is Black 6 that Fauville is talking about.



The other plane is a Kawasaki Ki-100b, as Fauville rightly pointed out.

Regards

Mailman

Fauville wrote:

QUOTE (Fauville @ Dec 1 2007, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Kawasaki Ki-100b, only one still existing.
Hendon Website

Ah well there you go, cheers for clearing that up.