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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:20 am
by Q300
Just a quick and pointless question but I just watched an RNZAF C130 fly over head my house at about 2,000 ft circle round about 3-4 times then headed north in the direction of New Plymouth airport :drool:
Now this brings me to my question :lol: Would a C130 be able to land on the New Plymouth rwy??
For the life of me I carnt remeber the rwy length <_< Ive got my scanner out now on NP tower to see if i can monitor what its up to :unsure: So far all ive heard is a C172 and a Dash 8 (also flew over my house)
Its a shame the only camera i have on me is my underwater disposable :lol:
Anyway that ends my semi pointless post :lol:

Sam

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:26 am
by Charl
Land is one thing, takeoff quite another.
But then JATO packs were invented for just that problem... :wink2:

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:33 am
by Q300
Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Jan 31 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But then JATO packs were invented for just that problem... :wink2:

Haha yea true :plane:

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:48 am
by ZK-Brock
Sure, hercs can land on short runways. One took off from a carrier once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkAaQzX-kzk&NR=1

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:54 am
by Q300
ZK-Brock wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-Brock @ Jan 31 2008, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sure, hercs can land on short runways. One took off from a carrier once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkAaQzX-kzk&NR=1


Man that was crazy such a small T/O run :o

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:16 pm
by ZK-Brock
Here are some C-130 Characteristics

Can't confirm their accuracy, but it looks about right.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:24 pm
by Q300
ZK-Brock wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-Brock @ Jan 31 2008, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are some C-130 Characteristics

Can't confirm their accuracy, but it looks about right.


Thanks should land here no probs.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:32 pm
by ZK-Brock
Saw Herc 7001 at Nelson yesterday actually, first time I'd seen one up-close before.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:33 pm
by Q300
ZK-Brock wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-Brock @ Jan 31 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Saw Herc 7001 at Nelson yesterday actually, first time I'd seen one up-close before.

Nice!
Yea I dont know what NO# this Herc was? Only the 3rd time id seen one, only the 2nd time I had seen one in the air though.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:36 pm
by ZK-Brock
Heheh yeah Dad & I were driving back from Mot after lookin at scooters, saw it fly over us on final for 02, was a good excuse for a quick detour to the airport :)

Though come to think of it it wasn't the first time I'd seen a herc - when I was in England driving past RAF Lyneham a Herc flew over top of us, also on final. Wasn't quick enough with the camera though :(

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:34 pm
by deaneb
Q300 wrote:
QUOTE (Q300 @ Jan 31 2008, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now this brings me to my question :lol: Would a C130 be able to land on the New Plymouth rwy??


Absolutely and have done on numerous occassions. The first time I saw a Herc close up, was in the 70's when the Queen was out and she visited NP. The RNZAF used one to cart around her entourage. We were even allowed on board and it was a lasting memory for me, as several years later I joined the RNZAF.
NP is 1310 metres long but Hercs often operate out of shorter strips i.e. Alexandra, Waiouru and Wanaka 1200m.

Obviously this is all dependent on factors such as weight and altitude etc. The typical recommended figure for min runway length is 3000ft or about 900m.

Deane

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:44 pm
by Q300
ZK-Brock wrote:
QUOTE (ZK-Brock @ Jan 31 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't quick enough with the camera though :(

Haha yea wish I had my camera, but all I had was an underwater disposable one my Grandma gave me :lol:
It was pulling some realy good bank angles would have made some realy good shots :(

deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Jan 31 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Absolutely and have done on numerous occassions. The first time I saw a Herc close up, was in the 70's when the Queen was out and she visited NP. The RNZAF used one to cart around her entourage. We were even allowed on board and it was a lasting memory for me, as several years later I joined the RNZAF.
NP is 1310 metres long but Hercs often operate out of shorter strips i.e. Alexandra, Waiouru and Wanaka 1200m.

Deane

Wow I dident know the Queen visited NP.
I guess the Hercs are STOL aircraft in there own rights...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:07 pm
by deaneb
Q300 wrote:
QUOTE (Q300 @ Jan 31 2008, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow I dident know the Queen visited NP.


Yep in 1954
and 1977 from memory.

Deane

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:25 pm
by Q300
deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Jan 31 2008, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep in 1954
and 1977 from memory.

Deane


Roger :thumbup:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:37 pm
by FlyingKiwi
They've flown one into Matamata before which isn't exactly a massive runway.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:02 pm
by Naki
A 737 has also used NP once or twice and Tom Cruise's Gulfstream IV has also being into NP when they were filming the Last Samurai - and presumably other biz jet have called into the Naki.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:03 pm
by greaneyr
A learned friend of mine told me that when the army constructed the seal runway at Feilding, they made it strong enough to withstand a Herc landing. Whether or not it would be long enough is another story. I've seen Hercs depart off the grass RWY at OH following airshows when every man and his dog is wanting to head home. Obviously, fully laden it would have been a different story.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:15 pm
by Q300
Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Feb 1 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A 737 has also used NP once or twice and Tom Cruise's Gulfstream IV has also being into NP when they were filming the Last Samurai - and presumably other biz jet have called into the Naki.

737 :drool: How long ago was that? was it a 200 or 300?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:03 pm
by Naki
Ages ago (hmm I sound like a L & P ad) - 20 years? - didn't see it myself but remember reading an article in the Daily News about an Air NZ 737-200 landing at New Plymouth - I guess it was just to see whether it was okay for emergency purposes - I guess it was lighlty loaded and virtually empty.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:14 pm
by Ian Warren
LANDING STATS .... well try , FSX , Acceleration , Moving Carrier , empty external tanks ...........piece of choc ,