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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:48 pm
by chopper_nut
Right got the images going ok now. Photobucket appears to be down.

You arrive at your local airstrip late for your flight / lesson. Your instructor or passenger are already waiting for you and the aircraft is sitting outside, in this case, a PA18. You start your walkaround as per usual. Checking the oil and having a quick lookse at the engine, you close the right hand cowling

Did you see it?

How bout now?

The aircraft was not in immediate danger for circuit flying but the weight that was being supported by four mounts, is now being supported by three.
I consider myself to be pretty vigilant during preflight but I reckon that I wouldnt have spotted this under the above conditions unless the light caught the edge of the metal or something like that. It was slightly easier to spot when the aircraft was outside.

This has grounded the aircraft and has prevented a friend of mine doing her PPL flight test this weekend. A good reminder to beginners and veterans to be careful when doing the walkaround.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:39 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
What am I looking for? :D

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:40 pm
by chopper_nut
My point exactly

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:46 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
chopper_nut wrote:
QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Apr 20 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My point exactly


Found it! Due to the colour of the metal it's pretty hard to see!

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:48 pm
by chopper_nut
Exactly, if you were in the situation above, chances are, you wouldnt have spotted it.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:01 pm
by Daniel
Heck! Only just noticed the defect.
Good spotting chopper_nut :thumbup:

Cheers
Daniel

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:05 pm
by chopper_nut
My friend was filling out the type rating form on Friday when I went out there. Me and another chap were standing there larking around a bit when he spotted the defect. It had already flown once like that, I wonder if it would have been spotted at all if it hadnt been pointed out.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:09 pm
by NZ255
OK, seriously, what are we looking for? :huh:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:15 pm
by Charl
NZ255 wrote:
QUOTE (NZ255 @ Apr 20 2008, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK, seriously, what are we looking for? :huh:
For a moment, I thought CN was alluding to the fact that the Lycoming was a coupla cylinders short, to fly a real aeroplane.
Then I remembered he said "Tomahawk" :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:37 pm
by A185F
chopper_nut wrote:
QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Apr 20 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The aircraft was not in immediate danger for circuit flying but the weight that was being supported by four mounts, is now being supported by three.


Uhhhh I kinda dissagree there..... <_< I really do hope that no one did go circuit flying with it being like that........ Please tell me it was instantly grounded :( There is no way on this earth that it could be safely operated like that and if it did (unknowingly) then those who few it are VERY lucky.
Very good find though, that could have potentially saved lives :clap:

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:13 pm
by chopper_nut
It had been flown like that, at least we presume that it was like that when it was flown. It was immediatly grounded, probably be outta the air for a week or so while the other mounts are checked. When I said there was no immediate danger, I was alluding to the fact that it was unlikely to have suffered a major structural failure right then and there.

Charl wrote:
QUOTE (Charl @ Apr 25 2008, 07:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For a moment, I thought CN was alluding to the fact that the Lycoming was a coupla cylinders short, to fly a real aeroplane.
Then I remembered he said "Tomahawk" :lol:


Its actually a PA18 Super Cub

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:05 pm
by ZK-Brock
I've never learned to check this in the C150... in the Tecnam though there were just 4 springs holding the engine one, or so it seemed :o

PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:30 pm
by Charl
chopper_nut wrote:
QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Apr 20 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its actually a PA18 Super Cub
Meh PA-18, PA-38...I don't know my Cub from my Tomahawk.
Good job I wasn't in charge of the walkover then, might've reported 2 cylinders missing as well :P .

PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:43 pm
by pois0n
chopper_nut wrote:
QUOTE (chopper_nut @ Apr 20 2008, 03:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
in this case, a PA18.



Uh oh, there's the problem! :P

But seriously, thanks for the heads up. I totally wouldn't have seen it