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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:35 pm
by Daniel
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:42 pm
by hamstickZKFLT
Hmm thats interesting, shame theres not more info on it. My guess is a 1900.
I seem to recall an ANZ 737 landing on engine in CH last year.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:15 pm
by Squawk1200
There was also a Local Stanby at Nelson Airport on ahh... Monday i think it was, Dash 8 had a faulty fuel control unit (power leaver) on one engine (took up to a minute for power input to respond), landed with no issues, engine still running.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:55 pm
by Peppermint
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A full emergency was declared at Auckland International Airport this evening[/quote]

What the? For an aircraft running on only one engine? Isn't that a bit overboard? Why has the media all of a sudden become like this? They must be getting pretty desperate to report on small things like this that happen every day all over the world. Like Hamstick has said, the 737 that was on its way to Queenstown turned back to Christchurch after and engine failed in flight, many more people on that flight but I can't recall it being on the news? How come? Hate to say it like this, but was it because it's in the South Island and not in the North?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:12 pm
by creator2003
Simple answer to that is YES and the weather is bad ,id say they can get a crew or coverage quicker here in the big smoke than down there but that just a north and south joke ..ha ha

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:15 pm
by Alex
I didn't know/think there were any distinctions between declarable types of emergency, that you couldn't declare a 'half emergency', it was either nothing or everything...

If something had happened though, imagine the circus that would have blown up if an emergency hadn't been declared.

Alex

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:17 pm
by A185F
Peppermint wrote:
QUOTE (Peppermint @ Jul 30 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What the? For an aircraft running on only one engine? Isn't that a bit overboard? Why has the media all of a sudden become like this? They must be getting pretty desperate to report on small things like this that happen every day all over the world. Like Hamstick has said, the 737 that was on its way to Queenstown turned back to Christchurch after and engine failed in flight, many more people on that flight but I can't recall it being on the news? How come? Hate to say it like this, but was it because it's in the South Island and not in the North?



well a plane like that running on one engine could potentially be a big deal, I would want the gurus out with their life savin equipment ready for me when I landed, JUST IN CASE. It does happen often over the world but not in nz.
However with the ol media thing they usually report a story if a airliner has an engine failure dont they...?
But on the other side of that, look at the media storm over that qantas 737 that had a gear door not close properly or somethin like that and they had to turn back to melb.... that was national news over here !!!!!!!!! I mean woopty s**t ! and they said there was like "chaos in the cabbin" and stuff and made out it was a door door. I dont really know the ins and outs of the event or the story but still seems stupid to me.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:02 pm
by creator2003
Well id say trying to land a twin on one engine in Auckland would be a test in its self tonight with the weather being what it is at the moment ,so im pretty interested to hear how good the pilots did coming in on one engine in such cr@p weather with 14 people onboard ,,plus it is a pretty important AP and would divert traffic to worst weather AP around the country if it had crashed on landing or in air ... half emergency thats a good one Alex laugh.gif

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:11 am
by Daniel
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:20 am
by Anthony
Daniel wrote:
QUOTE (Daniel @ Jul 31 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There is actually a name for the step below a full emergency, pan pan pan.
As always the media has to blow it way out of proportion.

Well that's their job. They exist only to make money and get viewers, not actually report any accurate news.
Thanks for the link.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:28 am
by ronindanbo
Was an air National JS32 from what I have heard

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:34 am
by Daniel
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:06 am
by victor_alpha_charlie
Yeah well if they were using a 1900 instead of a J32...

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(Yeah that's my opinion, not anyone else's that I might know...)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:08 am
by beaufighterguy
Daniel wrote:
QUOTE (Daniel @ Jul 31 2008, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The good old Jetstream laugh.gif
They certainly have quite a few incidents.
And then Eagle Air always get the finger pointed and it makes them look bad.
In future I think Air National Jetstream flights should be operated under a different seperate title.

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Yeah good point,there was that one with that women a true classic I want to go to Australia laugh.gif
btw they're not the best for room or crew comfort.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:13 am
by Q300
ronindanbo wrote:
QUOTE (ronindanbo @ Jul 31 2008, 07:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was an air National JS32 from what I have heard

Yup correct it was, It was operating for Eagle Air. Pilots shut down one engine as standard procedure due to warning lights for that engine going of during flight...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:37 am
by HardCorePawn
One of my engines dies on me inflight... I'm declaring an emergency... no if's, but's or maybe's... (mainly coz I only have one! winkyy.gif)... but even in a multi-engine aircraft

Not sure how much you know about flying, but having an engine out on a (non-centreline thrust) twin is going to cause all sorts of problems in the form of asymmetric thrust. Also, hard to say not knowing if its the critical engine or not, but the crew may have had some seriously adverse handling conditions... coupled with the 'pleasant' weather...

Not sure how a pilot, in my opinion, correctly declaring an engine failure an emergency and the incident being reported by the media = over-reaction?

They reported the facts as far as I can tell... and without any sensationalism or scaremongering...

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:22 pm
by TimG
Yes, I was wondering if it was the critical engine. I thought it is normal to do a mayday call even if you still have an engine because sometimes you don't know if you might lose the other engine as well.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:32 pm
by FlyingKiwi
Surely a JS-32 has counter-rotating propellers, in which case it wouldn't even have a critical engine.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:03 pm
by dask77
i was at the auckland international waiting for my my plane to land but it was put in a holding patten untill that plane landed

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:43 pm
by Alex
If you go back over to the 3 News webpage (link at top of this page), there's a wee bit of video showing the aircraft last night. winkyy.gif

Alex