NZFF

by **Naki** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:16 pm

by **FlyingKiwi** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:57 pm

Be interesting to see what they go with. Perhaps just newer King Airs? If not, wouldn't be surprised if it's something European, judging by our recent military purchases.

by **Daniel** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:51 pm

At one stage I think they were looking at the Q200.. Might be too big for what they need them for.
Maybe they could pick up a few 1900s or something. Thanks for the link.

by **benwynn** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:20 pm

I dont think they would go for something as big as a Q200, but a 1900 is definently a possiblity I reckon. Maybe even a new King Air 350 with the glass cockpit layout?

by **jastheace** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:28 pm

whats to say they won't go for something like a Pilatius PC-12, gets into more places than the king air, as fast (almost) and more advanced, could be a go, be cheaper to run, and cost less to maintain just my 2c worth

by **hamstickZKFLT** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:32 pm

I always thought they were for training. It surprises me that even now they use something of that size.

by **Anthony** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:32 pm

Interesting. Something from Beech is most likely in my opinion - 1900 or King Air 350.
Then again jas brings up a good point, even the military needs to save money

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What do they look for/what are they looking for?
Could something like the PAC750XL have any chance if it's just a trainer?

by **benwynn** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:33 pm

They will probably want a twin though wont they?

by **jastheace** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:37 pm

not nessacarly, the swiss and the usaf use the pc-12 as an advanced trainer, other countries use it as the next step before jets. they have got the 757's for their twin work

i know what i would be going for, considering nz's terrain, the pc-12's could be used for medical evac, cargo, vip transport or anything else in between really

by **A185F** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:48 pm

It has to be a twin. For multi engine training to move on to herc/orion so a PC 12 is no good for that, neither a pac 750. The Swiss and USAF use king air's also. My guess is King 350 but there was talk of dashes or something similar to take up other roles such as boarder patrol/coast watch as well as training. Glass cockpit is also a must due upgrades of current fleet.

by **victor_alpha_charlie** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:56 pm

No way will it be a 1900. You can;t get them new anymore and if they were going to get used aircraft they'd get something more suitable, like a King Air.

by **Chairman** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:49 pm

They train more than just air force pilots with them. I read an article in the Herald many moons ago which talked about them flying fast sea level approaches then popping up next to RNZN frigates (i.e. a typical fighter attack) in order to give the navy gunners and radar ops something to play with.

So it's not just about multi engine pilot training, whatever they go with also has to go like a ferrari and handle like a porsche

Cheers
Gary

(do we still have any frigates or did they get sold as well ?)

by **FlyingKiwi** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:45 pm

Apart from not being a twin, the PAC 750 probably wouldn't be a very good training platform for larger aircraft since it's able to go pretty darn slowly on approach/takeoff etc. not ideal if you are training in order to fly an Orion or 757 or something.

by **Link148** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:11 am

We were told in a weekly newsletter at Air Nelson that Air Nelson will be training two pilots on the Q300 aircraft???? Hmm what are they up to?

by **Naki** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:14 am

Link148 wrote:
QUOTE (Link148 @ Sep 12 2008, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We were told in a weekly newsletter at Air Nelson that Air Nelson will be training two pilots on the Q300 aircraft???? Hmm what are they up to?

Hmmm - two RNZAF pilots????

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:53 pm

The Royal New Zealand Air Force now leases five B200s, but McMahon says it will not specify in the RFP exactly how many aircraft it requires. He says this will depend on the platform selected and how many simulators are acquired.
guys.....

will depend on the platform selected and how many simulators are acquired.
We have that covered .....
rather the than Clark and its packa Twits choosen (not)...... i believe we would get a better panel of aviation experts here .......

by **Link148** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:13 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Sep 12 2008, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmm - two RNZAF pilots????

Yes two RNZAF pilots!!!

by **Ian Warren** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:16 pm

Link148 wrote:
QUOTE (Link148 @ Sep 12 2008, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes two RNZAF pilots!!!

yeah .. budget cuts .... all we have left

by **bestpilotindaworld** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:12 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Sep 12 2008, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah .. budget cuts .... all we have left

The RNZAF has some of the best pilots out there mate. Show Air Nelson a thing or two. "Captain can we go low level this time?"

by **Squawk1200** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:23 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Sep 12 2008, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah .. budget cuts .... all we have left

The deal is, as far as i understand it, that some RNZAF pilots coming straight off their flying courses (off the kingys) will line train for Air Nelson to cover staff shortages there (not sure if it will be on an "as required" basis, or more permanent) , and also (presumably) because there are too many pilots already standing in line to fly the orions/hercs/757s etc.
[This comes from what an airforce pilot told me, hopefully that was what he was trying to say, he didnt mention anything about getting them doing it to get famil'd on dashes for possible RNZAF training]

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