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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:25 pm
by dbcunnz
The Airbus Ditching Button


There's been much discussion about US Airways Flight 1549 and the extraordinary circumstances that befell the Airbus A320-200 (N106US) and her compliment of 150 passengers and 5 crew. At least preliminarily, it appears a double bird strike disabled each of the CFM56-5B4/P engine forcing Captain C.B. Sullenberger III and his First Officer to ditch the jetliner in the Hudson River.

As the aircraft was making its 'final approach' to the Hudson, the crew was preparing the aircraft and its passengers for the water landing, including, some speculate, by activating the ditching system on the A320. The button, cleverly labeled 'ditching', is located on the 'Cabin Press' section of the overhead panel shown above.

So what does that infrequently used button actually do?

When pressed, it commands the aircraft operating system to close the outflow valve, emergency ram air inlet, avionics inlet, extract valve and flow control valve. In addition, it will immediately shutdown the cabin fans. The button itself has a guard over it to prevent accidental activation. The system is available on all A320 family, A340/A330 and A380 aircraft.

According to the A320 quick reference guide, the ditching procedure calls for Flaps 3 and a minimum approach speed of 150 kts. The system should be activated at 2000 feet AGL and Airbus recommends 11 degrees of pitch at the time of touchdown.

The ultimate purpose of the system is to seal the aircraft to prevent water from undermining the buoyancy of the aircraft to keep it afloat in the event that the airframe remains intact after impacting the water. Federal Aviation Regulation Part 25, Section 801 describes the safety requirements in the event of a ditching:

(d) It must be shown that, under reasonably probable water conditions, the flotation time and trim of the aeroplane will allow the occupants to leave the aeroplane and enter the liferafts. If compliance with this provision is shown by buoyancy and trim computations, appropriate allowances must be made for probable structural damage and leakage. If the aeroplane has fuel tanks (with fuel jettisoning provisions) that can reasonably be expected to withstand a ditching without leakage, the jettisonable volume of fuel may be considered as buoyancy volume.

It's not hard to imagine that this live test of the 'Ditching' system was a resounding success.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:32 pm
by Ian Warren
The fact no one died on this very short flight and being Airbus , time to bring in the Boeing cockpit heavyweights , 'Albatross' .... Alister , dose the 737NG have a similar system ?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:31 pm
by Njbb1995
Does anyone know if this feature is in MSFS?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:00 pm
by pilotgallagher01
I would say no, As when you ditch a plane with crash detection off it bounces back in the air.
With it on you crash.......................

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:51 pm
by Njbb1995
Thats what I was thinking

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:41 am
by SUBS17
pilotgallagher01 wrote:
QUOTE (pilotgallagher01 @ Jan 29 2009, 04:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would say no, As when you ditch a plane with crash detection off it bounces back in the air.
With it on you crash.......................


That can be edited though its possible to make it able to land on water if it were edited by someone who knows what they are doing since FSX supports float planes.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:01 am
by AlisterC
To the best of my knowledge the 737 does not have this exact feature, but I have heard of it on the Airbus. Sounds like a great idea if you ask me. I might have a look around in the Boeing manuals later and see if I can find any mention of such a feature.

Edit:
According to the 737-300 Non-Normal Checklist - Boeing does a similar procedure with their older 737, but not quite the features of the A320:

ENGINE BLEED AIR SWITCHES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .OFF
[Permits depressurizing the aeroplane with outflow valve closed.]
PRESSURIZATION MODE SELECTOR . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . MAN
OUTFLOW VALVE SWITCH . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . CLOSE
[Prevents water from entering the aeroplane.]
Note: The outflow valve takes up to 20 seconds to close.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:46 am
by HardCorePawn
Also, according to the pilot... they never used the 'ditching' button... it is on page 3 of the checklist... they did not manage to get past page 2.

Why not? Well normally the checklist for is started when you are at FL350... not 3000' !!! ninja.gif

PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:46 pm
by Trev
I've just bought the PMDG MD-11 for FSX and I've noticed that the MD-11 has a ditching button as well on the RH side of the overhead panel.
Boeing must be feeling abit left out.

Trev