getting CPL when ur school wasnt to flash

[MeGoFlying]

Hey Ladies and Gentlemen,

Couple of questions to throw your way.

I am currenntly doing my PPL at the moment and working in the wonderful world of retail(joy!). Its doing my head in, and I am thinking about persuing my CPL with the 52 week course offered by the IAANZ

My questions are these: I left school in 6th form because I was litteraly wasting my time and my parents money, obviously I didnt get any qualifications and I am worried since you have to produce your schooling records!! This would pretty much non- existent! So with this in mind, would I actually have a shot at getting past the interview process? Im not a complete idiot I suppose!. How much weight is put into this from the IAANZ? Is it important?

Second question is related to the computer generated questions: Are they hard? Pretty straight forward? Maths orenitated?

Thanks Guys, any info would be greatly appreciated!

[waka172rg]

QUOTE (MeGoFlying @ Mar 3 2009, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hey Ladies and Gentlemen,

Couple of questions to throw your way.

I am currenntly doing my PPL at the moment and working in the wonderful world of retail(joy!). Its doing my head in, and I am thinking about persuing my CPL with the 52 week course offered by the IAANZ

My questions are these: I left school in 6th form because I was litteraly wasting my time and my parents money, obviously I didnt get any qualifications and I am worried since you have to produce your schooling records!! This would pretty much non- existent! So with this in mind, would I actually have a shot at getting past the interview process? Im not a complete idiot I suppose!. How much weight is put into this from the IAANZ? Is it important?

Second question is related to the computer generated questions: Are they hard? Pretty straight forward? Maths orenitated?

Thanks Guys, any info would be greatly appreciated!

Hay mate I no IAANZ is a real good school don't know there process if you don't get in there plenty of others good ones around NZ.
as for the school thing i got kindly asked to leave in 6Th form
had nothing but a head for flying and now a airline pilot with 5 out of 7 ATPL subjects in hand.
This is coming from someone who got 13 percent in English 15 percent in maths.
you can do anything you put your mind to! sure its a bit harder for us but you get there in the end.
enjoy your flying
Cheers
Waka172rg

[pois0n]

The IAANZ interview process is pretty BS

Just talk nice to Jay and dont #### up the sim session too badly and you'll be fine

[spongebob206]

Go for it.

Good to see the young enthused in aviation. If you have a passion, don't hold back.

With committment and the help of many when you need it (Everyone will help you believe me)
you will succeed.

All the best.

[FlyingKiwi]

Like the others have said, you might need to do a little more work than most, but by no means does your lack of 6th form completion completely rule you out of ever being a commercial pilot.

[HardCorePawn]

For what it is worth...

Last year I rang almost every single one of the larger flight training establishments (ie. the ones offering student loan funded courses) as I was thinking about going fulltime for the CPL. From talking to various people at the various schools, some of whom were quite candid, the whole interview process has cropped up due to the changes that were made to the student loan funding...

Previously, it was open slather... the schools could sign up as many students as they wanted and if they failed, no big deal... the schools already had the money and the student had the debt.

These days, however, schools are given a specific number of funding slots each year... which is at least partially based on how the students performed last year... so if they all drop out or fail, your funding slots for the next year is reduced.

This is the reason why they now have the interviews... they want to make sure you are committed to aviation for the long term... and not just doing it because flying seems like good fun and you have nothing better to do... because if they get a whole bunch of drop kicks who thought it was going to be real easy and be flying 747s in 12 months and making $$$$$$$, who suddenly realise it is a lot of hardwork and commitment, who then all drop out... then next year, they cannot get as many students etc etc...

I would highly recommend that you be pro-active and call the training provider(s) you are interested in and ask to have a chat with the CFI... explain your situation and concerns etc. and see what they have to say. I found most of them to be very approachable and more than willing to discuss my situation (ie. privately done PPL thinking about going fulltime for CPL) and most of them were pretty honest and upfront...

hope this helps,
HCP

[chrisarrow]

What HardCorePawn said about funding is correct, IAANZ are partnered with NMIT which is where the funding comes through (not directly from study link to IAANZ), the reason they can get the funding is because they offer the Diploma in Aviation as part of the practical flight training. NMIT require Achievement (12 credits) or better at NCEA level 2 in each of three subjects, including Maths, English and preferably a Science subject (or equivalent).

Being accepted in with less than NCEA Level 2 would be done on a case by case basis and would be quite rare, obviously they don't want to accept someone onto the course who will not complete it successfully because of the costs involved with flight training. You are best to phone up and talk to them. At the end of the day if you don't get accepted due to not meeting entry requirements then go finish NCEA Level 2. You only need 12 credits after all in three subjects.

How important is the maths for flying?
Well there are only a few ground exams which actually require maths and calculators are allowed anyway, the hardest calculations you will have to do will be quadratics. Mental maths is quite important and is required for the practical aspect of flying however, a lot of times in the air you will be faced with a calculation to make and you won't have access to a calculator to be able to do it.


In terms of the interview process at IAANZ, the questions you get asked are pretty straight forward and as long as you can do basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, division and algebra you will be fine. I do remember there were some sequences questions as well.

[redkiwi]

My instructor at the local aero club did the 52 week course there, he said that you'd expect from the 'screening' process that everyone there would be top notch - but there more than enough meat heads at the school for him to question how hard it was to get in. At the end of the day, if you can show that you will pass the exams, and pay your money on time, they have no reason not to accept you.