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Crosswind fun

Postby cowpatz » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:18 pm

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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Ian Warren » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:38 pm

:D Even the bird's decided to stay grounded ..... love these videos B-)
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby NZ255 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:48 pm

Wow. at what point do they close the place? Or is it up to the pilots/sop?
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Splitpin » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:29 pm

Holy cow ...great post CP. Love the birds :lol:
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Lindstrim » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:13 pm

NZ255 wrote:Wow. at what point do they close the place? Or is it up to the pilots/sop?


SOP's and the aircraft limitations are the main one. Ours is 38kts of crosswind on a dry runway.
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Fozzer » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:49 am

BLIMEY!!..... :o .... :o ....!

I've only once in my lifetime been in a passenger aeroplane, in early 1960, for a short (UK) business flight from Birmingham Airport to Glasgow Airport.

If I had been a regular flier, and the flight had been anything like the ones on the video, it would be that last time I ever flew again!

That would be extremely scary and uncomfortable!

A Brown Trouser Flight!

"Flight Simming" is the closest I ever want to get, to real Passenger Flights!

I like being at zero feet AGL in real life!... :D ...!

Paul... :unsure: ....!
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby cowpatz » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:44 am

NZ255 wrote:Wow. at what point do they close the place? Or is it up to the pilots/sop?


A lot depends on the operator. The aircraft manufacturers only provide a maximum demonstrated crosswind figure. Technically it is not a limitation although many operators adopt it as one.
Some of those departures were really pushing it given the wet and gusty conditions.
You may recall the Pac Blue 738 out of ZQN whereby the pilot was accused of taking off in a crosswind that exceeded the limitation in their company's exposition.
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby NZ255 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:58 pm

cowpatz wrote:
NZ255 wrote:Wow. at what point do they close the place? Or is it up to the pilots/sop?

You may recall the Pac Blue 738 out of ZQN whereby the pilot was accused of taking off in a crosswind that exceeded the limitation in their company's exposition.

No, I don't remember that one, just the "night time" issue.
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Fozzer » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:43 pm

From the comfort of my armchair, I find that the biggest danger from cross-winds, comes from eating lots of Green Vegetables, Onions, Leeks, and Mr. Heinz' Baked Beans in Tomato Sauce, etc.

Fortunately, there are no other Passengers in the living room to experience the effects.

Paul....a passing thought.... :rolleyes: ...!
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:01 am

When ever I do fly its always book the window seat simply to watch weather wing-flex and course control surfaces, I could guarantee my head is 95 % looking out the window and 100% on landing and takeoff climbing out course descending.
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Fozzer » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:25 am

Ian Warren wrote:When ever I do fly its always book the window seat simply to watch weather wing-flex and course control surfaces, I could guarantee my head is 95 % looking out the window and 100% on landing and take-off climbing out course descending.


...with bum tightly clenched... :o ...!

Paul.... :lol: ... :lol: ....!
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Charl » Sat Jul 30, 2016 10:30 am

I'm not sure as a tubeliner passenger, you'd recognise too many flight situations that are really dangerous .
I'm not sure what it is you wouldn't recognise, so I listen to the safety briefing, and take note of emergency exits...
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:04 am

As above is always follow the safety and know your aircraft, I think many of us would be reasonably calm because we understand the situation and generally understanding of the weather and turbulence.

Still my best ever flight was on a 146 from Auckland to Christchurch, a transfer flight from Asia ... nothing on that day, 'clear as' all the way down, the flight had a lot European tourists in the back half of the plane were I was ... no turbulence here , because I knew the landscape very a became a tourist guide, cabin staff were helpful , I knew the two girls, when ever coming up to a major feature I pointed it out, they all had the cameras out the windows , one hell of a fun flight.

I had a mate who worked for Ansett at Christchurch ground personal, he pulled me up for quick chin wag and could understand why I was getting thankyous from half the passengers, really made for a brilliant ending ... No wobbly winds that day.
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Re: Crosswind fun

Postby Ian Warren » Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:15 am

Fozzer wrote:
Ian Warren wrote:When ever I do fly its always book the window seat simply to watch weather wing-flex and course control surfaces, I could guarantee my head is 95 % looking out the window and 100% on landing and take-off climbing out course descending.


...with bum tightly clenched... :o ...!

Strangely that never happen in the air, from aerobatic rides in Stearmans to being a sack spuds in a Devon, ... only time take sorta thing happened was when one said they could ride a bike and others in cars.... in the air feel a lot safer.
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