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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:35 pm

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Ive had to reset my airline as I made some BIG mistakes and my most profitable routes were killed by competition - now based in Juneau Alaska - no competition here. Going quite well considering .

Hey Kelburn - Ive leased a Islander off you - thanks for that!


If you can afford it I'll sell you a DH Buffalo for half price (the lowest i can). Also any B99's, DHC-6-100's, Gulfstream 1's, F-27's and even an Argosy (very good DOP on these).
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Postby Naki » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:34 pm

victor_alpha_charlie wrote:
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If you can afford it I'll sell you a DH Buffalo for half price (the lowest i can). Also any B99's, DHC-6-100's, Gulfstream 1's, F-27's and even an Argosy (very good DOP on these).



Thanks - cant afford it yet but would be keen to pick up one of those - the Twin Otter and B99 maybe (the cheapest?)

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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:48 pm

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Thanks - cant afford it yet but would be keen to pick up one of those - the Twin Otter and B99 maybe (the cheapest?)

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Yep I can lease to you for now if you want. What's your airline ID?
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Postby Naki » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:32 pm

It might have to wait until tomorrow as the 24th clocked around and I am in debt (again!)... but have the DOP to a lot better level than before so should be okay to lease something later tomorrow as long as I dont splurge my money again - whats your lease rate of say the B99? My airline ID code is JXA.
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:08 am

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It might have to wait until tomorrow as the 24th clocked around and I am in debt (again!)... but have the DOP to a lot better level than before so should be okay to lease something later tomorrow as long as I dont splurge my money again - whats your lease rate of say the B99? My airline ID code is JXA.


I meant your ailrine ID. You can see it on your Admin page. Eg mine is 6785.
You are definitely better to buy if you can afford it, unless you really have to lease, as lease costs hit you hard every month. I think you're better off saving up and buying one. I can sell you a B99 for €1,367,089 (50% which is as low as I can go) or a Twin otter 100 for €828,787. My aircraft offers are open to everyone at NZFF btw!
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Postby Naki » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:37 am

Okay Ill be keen on on the Twin Otter but dont hold your breath as I have to save up for a couple of days (real time).

My id code is 8775.
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Postby johanfrc » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:38 am

Just ordered a DC-9-30. Couldn't resist. :whoops: :wacko: <_< ^_^
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:31 pm

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Okay Ill be keen on on the Twin Otter but dont hold your breath as I have to save up for a couple of days (real time).

My id code is 8775.


That's fine, I wont replace it until you buy it- I've got 15 other planes to replace with HS748's and Caravelle's... I can't praise the HS748 enough- Costs $10,000,000 and earns nearly as much as my 737-200 ($40 odd million). Got 5 more on order :D


EDIT:
Woo! I broke the 3 million DOP!

DOP: €3,157,144
Airline Cash: €3,915,515
Airline Value: €252,195,263

Average Loadfactor: 100.00%
Date: 2 Apr 1971


Fleet:
Owned:

7x B99
1x B 737-200
1x DHC-6-100
1x Gulfstream 1
4x HS-748E
1x SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B


On Order:
1x Boeing 737-200 Adv. Business Jet
5x HS-748E
1x SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B

Leased in:
1x Argosy 650 Srs 200

93 routes to 67 destinations.

How are the rest of you doing?
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Postby johanfrc » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:49 pm

DOP: €3,620,816
Airline Cash: €15,501,254
Airline Value: €345,426,582

1 Boeing 737-200
1 Boeing 737-200 Adv. Business Jet (1 order)
1 Convair 440
1 Convair 580
1 DHC-6-100
1 DHC-6-200
1 DHC-6-300
2 Douglas DC-9-30 (1 order)
1 Fairchild Hiller FH-227B
2 Fokker F27-100
1 Fokker F27-200
2 Fokker F27-400
1 HS-748 Srs 2A
1 SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B

Total Routes: 77
Total Destinations: 69

Bases in Copenhagen, Frankfurt and Budapest.
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:41 pm

HA I'm doing well now! Just ordered a DC-10-10, a DC-10-30 and an Ilyushin IL-62 (not actually a bad a/c on paper)

DOP: €6,726,932
Airline Cash: €25,867,148
Airline Value: €1,380,216,414


Average Loadfactor: 100.00%
Date: 16 Feb 1972

Bases in Chicago Midway, Washington Dulles and Fort Worth.

125 routes, 77 destinations. Kelburn and I have started the Kiwi Alliance, any NZFF'ers feel free to join.

Owned Aircraft:
3x B99 (Trying to get rid of them)
2x Boeing 727-200
3x 737 (one 200, one 200 adv and one BBJ)
2x DC-9 (One -30, one -40)
15x HS-748E
1x Connie L-1049G
2x SE 210 Caravelle 12's
3x SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B's

Leased Out:
1x B99
1x HS-748E

On Order:
1x DC-10-10
1x DC-10-30
1x Ilyushin IL-62.

You guys?
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Postby Naki » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:38 pm

I'll buy one of your B99s as I now have a bit of spare cash after my return from hols - although I have enough cash for a HS748 so wouldnt mind one of those instead (if you are trying to get rid of one)
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Postby Naki » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:56 pm

Actually cancel any request for a HS748 - just saw how much they cost! Just ordered a Metro but keen on a B99 you may have goining cheap VAC!
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Postby johanfrc » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:46 am

DOP: €8,155,885
Airline Cash: €29,474,843
Airline Value: €1,373,882,918

127 routes 110 destinations

1 Boeing 707-320B
3 Boeing 727-200
1 Boeing 737-200
1 Boeing 737-200 Adv. Business Jet (Leased out)
1 Convair 440 (Leased out)
1 Douglas DC-9-10
8 Douglas DC-9-30 (2 Leased out)
2 Douglas DC-9-40
1 Fairchild Hiller FH-227B
1 Fokker F27-100 (Leased out)
3 Fokker F27-200 (1 Leased out)
2 Fokker F27-400 (1 Leased out)
6 SE 210 Caravelle Super 10B

Hubs in Copenhagen, Frankfurt, Budapest and Heathrow.

None in order right now. But it'll be more Caravelles to take out the last Fokkers (except the leased out). Might get the Convair back soon. The airline that has it has a dept on 17 mio. And since he's whole fleet is leased he pays more then he gets in. So I'm excpeting a bankrupt soon and then the Convair 440 will be sold or scraped.

--->Naki: I have a few Fokker 27's. Do you want to lease or buy one of them?
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Postby Naki » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:55 pm

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--->Naki: I have a few Fokker 27's. Do you want to lease or buy one of them?


Yep I am keen on a F-27 (200 or 400) if the price is right - just bought a couple of a/c (thanks VAC for the B99 - I grabbed it off the open market) and a few gates so bit short of cash just at the moment but give me a few days in real time and I should have the cash. How much?
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Postby Naki » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:11 pm

Can anybody tell me how you lease or sell one of your own aircraft?
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Postby Kelburn » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:31 pm

I got a 4.5 mill DOP with 18 aircraft for passengers (14 F28's and 4 737-200's) with 16,000 passengers daily.
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Isn't it evident?? Boeing are my favourite aircraft.

P.S. that's is my real birthday but I wish to keep my real age secret to keep you all pondering.
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Postby johanfrc » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:11 pm

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QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 24 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep I am keen on a F-27 (200 or 400) if the price is right - just bought a couple of a/c (thanks VAC for the B99 - I grabbed it off the open market) and a few gates so bit short of cash just at the moment but give me a few days in real time and I should have the cash. How much?


I have one -400 and 2 -200. I'll replace them with Caravelles later today. Then I can say the price. But I think you can get the -400 for € 6.2 mil and the first -200 for about 8.4 mil and the second for about 8.7 mil. But maybe we can find a good lease rate. I know that the fokkers is somewhat cheap to lease. Have already leased 4 of them to a very low rate (aprox € 400.000/month)

When you want to lease or sell an aircraft you have to close all routes for the aircraft. Then you open the "View & buy" screen and press the "info" button that is on the right of the aircraft. On the new screen there is a button saying "Sell Aircraft" and "Lease Aircraft".
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Postby Kelburn » Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:55 am

Naki do you want an aircraft such as an HS-748 etc. If you want I'll buy one for you and sell it to you for half price.
(I got the cash - as a rule I never go below having 100 mill cash)
Just say the aircraft and If it ain't too much I get it for you.
Note I will do this for any beginner but only those who have small airlines.
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Isn't it evident?? Boeing are my favourite aircraft.

P.S. that's is my real birthday but I wish to keep my real age secret to keep you all pondering.
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Postby Kelburn » Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:13 pm

Again I'm putting out that offer.

I now have 22,000 passengers daily with only 22 passengers
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Postby Naki » Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:59 pm

johanfrc wrote:
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I have one -400 and 2 -200. I'll replace them with Caravelles later today. Then I can say the price. But I think you can get the -400 for € 6.2 mil and the first -200 for about 8.4 mil and the second for about 8.7 mil. But maybe we can find a good lease rate. I know that the fokkers is somewhat cheap to lease. Have already leased 4 of them to a very low rate (aprox € 400.000/month)

When you want to lease or sell an aircraft you have to close all routes for the aircraft. Then you open the "View & buy" screen and press the "info" button that is on the right of the aircraft. On the new screen there is a button saying "Sell Aircraft" and "Lease Aircraft".



Thanks Johnafrc but I think I might take Kelburns offer. Thanks for the advice too.

Kelburn wrote:
QUOTE (Kelburn @ Jan 27 2008, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naki do you want an aircraft such as an HS-748 etc. If you want I'll buy one for you and sell it to you for half price.
(I got the cash - as a rule I never go below having 100 mill cash)
Just say the aircraft and If it ain't too much I get it for you.
Note I will do this for any beginner but only those who have small airlines.



Thanks Kelbrun - a generous offer - yeah I wouldn't mind a HS748 series 1 - we will have to time it right when I have the cash - I do right now.
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