What do you make of this?

[whirlybird]

Saw this today.

Seems a bi odd. I know theres always a reason for it but love the mystery of things...
What are your thoughts of this??

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article....jectid=10850504

[Nzeddy]

Satellite? Space Station?

[whirlybird]

QUOTE (Nzeddy @ Nov 28 2012,5:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Satellite? Space Station?

Yea I was thinking something along those lines.....
Id Ignore the video at the top too not sure if its actually anything to do with the story...
Only thing though the spacestation dont stick around long....

[kestrel]

Id say its the international space station, seen it before and it looks like that and moves about that speed. Theres a web site (nasa I think) that shows when it goes over, quite impressive

[scaber]

It's a tumbling satellite - used to be very common when the Iridium satellites went overhead (hence the term Iridium Flashers or Iridium Flares).

Wikipedia article

[SUBS17]

That sounds about right it could definately be a sattelite and it could also be just a high flying aircraft with a flashing NAV light.

[Ian Warren]

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE GLOWY KIND , sattelite s dont float , funny reading it lasted for thirty seconds yet the Vid is five minutes , there have been many encounters before .. todays world most have a camera glued to there phone , timely reminder dates back to 1978 with no exception , only lucky they had a TV film crew aboard a transport plane ... even Wellington radar had contact , within seconds it was gone .. tracked over the south of Ohakea then returned to the Argosy in seconds .

Still no explanation .. news put it down to lights from a Korean squid boat off Kaikoura .. .. YOU NEVER NO

[whirlybird]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Nov 29 2012,11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

funny reading it lasted for thirty seconds yet the Vid is five minutes

Yea I have a feeling that video had nothing to do with the article expect for the glowing part.... haha

[Ian Warren]

Whirly , guess its not so spooky - it would be amazing to have little 'green guys' stop in and say ........ Jibber Jibber

[SA227]

The times that I have seen the ISS it has been moving much quicker than I anticipated, unfortunately way too fast to follow with my telescope.

Hey Ian, remind me one day to tell you about the light south of Oamaru, that was spooky

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (SA227 @ Nov 29 2012,4:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hey Ian, remind me one day to tell you about the light south of Oamaru, that was spooky

Ooo Ooo ! Reminder .. .. how bout now .. I did have a book on UFO encounters , one i handed out and never got back but fact is they are more common than most believe

[SUBS17]

There is some good ones just the other day was one on video in the states that does some weird stuff. It flys over a city weekly, lands and then takes off again the weird part is how fast it is.(really fast)

[SUBS17]

More UFO stuff.

http://screen.yahoo.com/strange-lights-app...-233018377.html

Same thing happened in the 1950s, but I think these might be man made.

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Dec 13 2012,3:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

More UFO stuff.

http://screen.yahoo.com/strange-lights-app...-233018377.html

Same thing happened in the 1950s, but I think these might be man made.

SUBS .... No disrespect to you at all .... but that is a load of horse s**t ....

[SUBS17]

It did happen in the 50s a formation of those flew over the white house I read it in a book. Videos there and theres more than one there I cannot identify them so technically they are unidentified(although I suspect I know what they are lol).

[SUBS17]

UFO over Jerusalem:

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/-/wat...d-in-jerusalem/

Quite a cool video, I wonder what the flash of light prior to its accelerated climb was?

[IslandBoy77]

Yep, that Jerusalem one was one of the more interesting ones from last year. Most noteworthy is the location whatever it was that decided to "visit". I'm sure there are quite a number of hoaxes and natural-yet-unexplainable-due-to-lack-of-sufficient-information UFOs that happen all the time. Yet, there is still enough truly odd stuff that defies explanation. I think once one moves beyond the limited world-view that unidentified flying objects need to be "nuts and bolts" alien vessels, and one begins to conscience the possibility of inter-dimensional beings, all sorts of questions become moot (like the "breaking the laws of physics" thing that many people get hung up on) and some disturbing scenarios become viable.

Science can only take us so far: our universe isn't able to be interpreted through 4-dimensional science alone. Heck, even quantum physicists acknowledge that there are at least 10 dimensions: but the other 6 currently reside outside of more than a very rudimentary understanding (as in, we know they exist) by science. And while Men in Black may jest with cracks like the "light of venus reflecting off swamp gas", lame explanations like balloons with lights on them don't cut it either (one we need exceptionally still air and very nimble powered balloons to effect such precision alignments, at night). I guess it's a win-win for "the military industrial complex". If they ARE testing very advanced flying vehicles, ones that would get us asking "How did you get such advanced vehicles" or even "where did the money come from", when people mis-identify such craft as alien-style vehicles the MIC can't lose. They let it play as an alien-UFO, most people are skeptical and it's largely dismissed. They play the "swamp gas" story, the UFO-ologists get stuck into it, make a "documentary" about it, look a bit foolish, and most people remain skeptical and dismiss it. Even if they fall back on the "MIC conspiracy" thing, where people think it's a new advanced aircraft but the MIC won't confirm or deny, it all still adds to the general haze, daze and confusion around the whole thing, making it far easier to carry on whatever's actually going on.

One thing I'm 100% sure of: one way or another, we WILL find out (largely) what this is all about within the next 20 years. And I'm putting good money on us not liking the answer...

[SUBS17]

Well with military test aircraft the pattern is generally the aircraft are kept secret until such time as they have something better and then they release some info on it. For example the F117 was around since the 70s but no knowledge was released officially by the US until the Gulf war eventhough a couple had crashed a few years earlier. By then they were already working on the F/A-22 and B2 and were rumoured to be working on some other hypersonic aircraft. The story behind the F117 is quite good as is the SR71,U2 etc those aircraft were designed and built during the cold war which alot of people now days know very little about. Now days we still have a need for such aircraft and technology so long as its not in the wrong hands and used the wrong way and it is necessary because there are countrys that are catching up with the US in some of the high technology that is used for stealth fighters and weapons in order to counter it if such a situation should occur. As for extra terrestrials I take that as a grain of salt, there are some really good storys out there about such things and its technology being reverse engineered but aside rumours and tons of misinformation generally alot of such sightings could be put down to test aircraft which is what I suspect with the above sighting. Because a similar sighting was filmed during the day last year and it regularly happens in the states which is how a guy filmed it and then a news cameraman fimed it.

BTW heres a similar type of UFO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9W3l1KroCk

Note the thruster described it could be the same aircraft type, I think its a drone because of the amount of G involved would be quite alot.

[IslandBoy77]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Jan 4 2013,4:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

so long as its not in the wrong hands and used the wrong way and it is necessary because there are countrys that are catching up with the US in some of the high technology that is used for stealth fighters and weapons

Ah, there's the million dollar question - whose hands are the wrong ones? There was a time when I believed that it was basically the hands of anybody in "the west". I've been disabused of that notion for some time now.

You're right that there is quite a pile of misinformation, disinformation and outright lies to wade through - after 20 years of looking into the subject I've learned that. At the same time, providing one has an inquisitive mind, a willingness to conscience the "unlikely" (according to "standard" everyday people's way of thinking) and to have a world view that takes in much more than the 4 dimensions we can physically experience, it's quite possible to begin to patch together a tapestry of "gold nuggets" that, when viewed from a more all-encompassing "standing back to take in the whole big picture" stance, yields a very interesting pattern and method underlying it all.

I certainly wouldn't be relying on any government or military to tell the truth about what they've got, how they got it, who's helping them or why. It is frustrating that many people just like to label this stuff as "kooky", thereby effectively sticking their heads in the sand. I do understand that the ramifications of the truth of things is startling, in the least, but just because it is so challenging to everyday life & potentially a permanent game-changer for life on this planet in the intermediate future doesn't mean that people should just laugh & go back the "comforts" of what doesn't threaten them...

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Jan 4 2013,4:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well with military test aircraft the pattern is generally the aircraft are kept secret until such time as they have something better and then they release some info on it. For example the F117 was around since the 70s but no knowledge was released officially by the US until the Gulf war

Was a press release of the F117 around 1987/88 and prior no across the board in defence magazines dating 1982 when one crashed in New Mexico , course you also had the plastic model people 'TESTORS' making what they thought what it was to look like and a flurry of publications drawing all sorts of different concepts .. Great days they were !