787 woes continue

[IslandBoy77]

Looks like Boeing's new 787s still having some "teething problems":

http://nz.totaltravel.yahoo.com/news-opini...eamliner-in-us/

This, of course, following on from the goings-on in Japan recently. Not a good look for a delayed, much-hyped airliner...

[Ian Warren]

Least it has not injured anyone yet Good old Boeing .. years ago the winner would have to be ARBUST380 was going through emergency evac trials around 30 people were injured falling to the ground ! that was years before a first flight .. Crikey!

[Charl]

ARBUST eh?
I give you:
The Burning 787

There is no way I set foot on that aircraft for a long long time.
Good job they are so many years behind with the ANZ delivery...

Good ole Burning can't wish this one away, they have a real problem.
The US FAA does not lightly ground a model fleet, fact I cannot remember when last it happened.

Oh wait... it was when 737's were setting fire to their central fuel tanks.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Charl @ Jan 17 2013,3:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I give you:
The Burning 787

Are yes the new Men's body Deodorant /Cologne antiperspriant , a slap on the face really gives you that burning feeling ... ... Only for aviators and from stockers near you !

[Yob]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jan 17 2013,1:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Are yes the new Men's body Deodorant /Cologne antiperspriant , a slap on the face really gives you that burning feeling ... ... Only for aviators and from stockers near you !

Your a funny guy ian, But its like that with all new aircraft just look at the problems with the ARBUST 380's wing crack problems and the old 727 door problems.

[Splitpin]

Yep.....just "teething problems" they will get it sorted ....we are talking about Boeing after all..... just my 10 cents worth.

[deaneb]

QUOTE (Charl @ Jan 17 2013,3:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ARBUST eh?
I give you:
The Burning 787

There is no way I set foot on that aircraft for a long long time.
Good job they are so many years behind with the ANZ delivery...

Good ole Burning can't wish this one away, they have a real problem.
The US FAA does not lightly ground a model fleet, fact I cannot remember when last it happened.

Oh wait... it was when 737's were setting fire to their central fuel tanks.

Of course Airbus are such solid planes......never lost an entire tail fin or anything like that..........!!

One simple fix for the 787 might be simply to revert to the battery type most commonly used in airliners (NiCad?), unless there is a specific reason why they need these new-fangled problematic ones.

As far as I'm aware there are only about 50 787's in operation world wide?

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Jan 17 2013,8:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Of course Airbus are such solid planes......never lost an entire tail fin or anything like that..........!!

Arrr ... they do have a habit off loosing the entire aircraft ... the list is long and distinguished

[ZK-MAT]

wohoooo fanboi fight!!



aka How to wind up Ian

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (ZK-MAT @ Jan 17 2013,11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

wohoooo fanboi fight!!

Ooo Ooo can i have some ... popcorn i mean

[Charl]

Here's how:
Take a bag of this.................................................find one of these...........................



Open a hatch, any hatch will do, just needs electrics inside.
Wait 5 minutes....POP! POP! POP!
Ehh mind the smoke.

[Ian Warren]

Pleased you chose the 'Gourmet' brand class , take the lid off they fly higher .. just like a Boeing .. had it be Arbust .. just pop then plop ! SMOKING !

[Kahu]

But the question I want to know is who would win in the movies
Alien Vs Boeing
or
Alien VS Airbus

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Kahu @ Jan 18 2013,7:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Alien Vs Boeing
or
Alien VS Airbus

2013
Alien Vs Boeing or the Predator
or
Alien VS Airbus or Bart Simpson

More popcorn please ... this is becoming a Trilogy

[Charl]

QUOTE (Kahu @ Jan 18 2013,7:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But the question I want to know is who would win in the movies
Alien Vs Boeing
or
Alien VS Airbus

It's a BIGGIE!
But I think!
Chevrolet! ... all the way...

[happytraveller]

I would not like to be the engineers or on the design team at Boeing just now. I guess that a few people there will be having a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of overtime too.
Dreamliner becomes nightmareliner I think.

And all the talk seems to be about battery problems, but what about the cracked cockpit windshield??? Reminded me a bit of the problems that the original Comet had, but all the attention seems to be on the batteries.

As far as I know, the AirTruk has not suffered any inflight battery problems, is there something to be learned from the AirTruk???

smooth landings.

[Charl]

Outsourcing has never been part of the Boeing ethos, and it's showing.
The failures are not the usual "teething troubles"; they are systemic.
Starting at prototype stage with basic stuff like wing fasteners failing (!) there has been a series of unrelated reliability issues.
Brakes, engines, fuel, electrics, cockpit
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21060541
Many of these are not under Boeing's direct control.

They are also under enormous time pressure (3 years late)
To meet the programme deadlines, they are putting stuff out there that should've been sorted before the first plane took off.

Airbus makes multi-sourcing management look easy.
It's not, and Boeing has just discovered that fact.

I hope they comb through the issues and make a safe reliable aircraft out of this.
It's a brilliant and passenger-focussed design.

[Ian Warren]

Boeing did build an Airtruk , even increased its load carry capacity with the Big Belly and it was beautyfull it was a called Stratofortress