
Posted:
Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:15 pm
by Splitpin
Its odd , i was doing a google search on my place the other day , and apart from maps etc ... there was this link :
http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/C...ph/39331.detailHard to imagine , that in just over one month , a hundred years ago , that guy left the place i now live in ... and went to war.
He left from Wellington , but close enough ...

Posted:
Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:36 pm
by Ian Warren
I think many people look at War today as a crime specific due to the Middle East regions, and pre that the ultimate example off almost really returning to WWII was Yugoslavia, forget the borders - and strangely that is were WWI started from - it was the Mid 1990s off they went again, ..... for the one who maybe don't understand "BEHIND ENEMY LINES" for example would be a good show case of what people do.
WWI tho , I don't really understand the Mental thought off the Generals, after reading 'Battle of Jutland' the large naval action and the shear cockups by the RN and the German Imperial Fleet, this fascinates me into extra learning ...
... We then go to Gallipoli - ANZAC cove , Suda beach , Longest lasting Battleship campaign that created this next years 100th ...

Posted:
Tue Nov 11, 2014 8:48 pm
by Charl
Some weeks ago I spent the day wandering around the Tower of London.
Some would have seen on TV, the poppies placed in the moat, each representing one of the lads sent off to slaughter in the War to End all Wars.
They hadn't finished the job when I took this one, but it was enough to give pause for thought: it's a lotta poppies.

Splitpin wrote:...if young men (and woman) hadn't put their lives on the line a hundred years ago ...
I don't hold with this view at all, the lads went off on what they thought was a few months of adventure!
The women labelled them cowards with white feathers if they didn't... what a different time that was.
They changed their tune when the first shell-shocked ones started to return from the front, but by then, it was too late.

Posted:
Tue Nov 11, 2014 10:13 pm
by Ian Warren
"They had not finished the job" , Frankly that photo, Charl, appears to have a better defined meaning .. In my mind it seems complete !

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:48 am
by emfrat
Your Eden Park has a capacity of around 50,000. Now imagine every one of that crowd being killed or wounded every day, for a week or more. That's what happened at the Somme, just on the Allied side, and there were other major battles with the same sort of result. The Tower needs a bigger yard.

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:30 am
by Ian Warren
Its the damn stupid way they did it and knowing the outcome yet they still repeated it ... a classic passage in the book 'Battle at Jutland' pre the ANZAC Gallipoli .. The Dardanelles adventure - the longest Battleship campaign ever had a good example ... right chaps, six o'clock time for tea, toddle pip and after dinner you can all get out and paint me ship .. gang planks down the side .. crew dangling from ropes .... the pompus captain anchored and still within the range of the Turk artillery, what was he thinking ! ....

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:17 am
by emfrat
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-30000333888,246 British fatalities, in four years of war. Over 222,000 a year, nearly 4300 per week - and that's not counting the wounded.

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:48 am
by Ian Warren
Amazing the statistics, but least they learned a little in regard to the people fighting in WWII , WWI seemed to me like simply send them out the to slaughter without any real thought, I guess the 'Blackadder' WWI TV series actually nail the stupidity off it .

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:08 pm
by Splitpin
Charl wrote:Some weeks ago I spent the day wandering around the Tower of London.
Some would have seen on TV, the poppies placed in the moat, each representing one of the lads sent off to slaughter in the War to End all Wars.
They hadn't finished the job when I took this one, but it was enough to give pause for thought: it's a lotta poppies.
I don't hold with this view at all, the lads went off on what they thought was a few months of adventure!
The women labelled them cowards with white feathers if they didn't... what a different time that was.
They changed their tune when the first shell-shocked ones started to return from the front, but by then, it was too late.
Charl , i watched a short doco on those poppies ... just amazing . I would love to see it , thanks for sharing the pic.

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:42 pm
by Yob
It was a sad day to remember all those who sacrificed for our homes, families, language, Culture and Freedom.
But then tony abbot goes and announces sending Special forces into Iraq on remembrance day, quite disrespectful in my opinion.

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:44 pm
by Splitpin
Yob wrote:It was a sad day to remember all those who sacrificed for our homes, families, language, Culture and Freedom.
But then tony abbot goes and announces sending Special forces into Iraq on remembrance day, quite disrespectful in my opinion.
Agree ... could have held off a bit.... but who knows , He's an idiot anyway (IMO) , and only does what his spin doctors say.... and they, are idiots as well (again ... imo)

Posted:
Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:11 pm
by Ian Warren
When you think about it , people talking about the day , makes people want to learn more about it , so in hindsight it really is a Remembrance Day .