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I'm all for the Apollo missions , but this TITANIC conspiracy thing is Very very plausible I have one book here printed in 1997 showing the Titanic on the slipway with only 14 portholes on the bow, then beside it is another photo getting fitted out still with only three funnels but now has 16 portholes, I do have another book I lent out a the mo, which has a lot of Dr Robert Ballard's diving photo's and extra photo material, really is something that could be very believable .
There was a third ship in the class the was going to be called the Gigantic but renamed Britannica and that was sunk in the Mediterranean during WWI as a hospital ship heading the Dardanelles.

Another two photo's here , the Titanic with the 14 portholes and with a red and black hull at launch and the other almost fitted out, you can read Titanic on the side off the hull now with 16 portholes and the hull is now painted grey.
I'll scan the photos shortly, I want to check other books I have here, simply something I did not ask myself.

Photo showing the Titanic on the stocks showing its name and 14 only portholes almost ready for launch.


Going in the water on launch, still in its black and red hull colour, 14 portholes.

Suddenly a close up shows the name Titanic clearly but now with a grey hull.

I do have 2 photo's showing the Olympic sliding down the slipway and her hull is white.

I would say without a doubt the ships were changed , believe doco is factual or least dose show sheep
have been drape over peoples eyeballs ... wonder what James Carmeron is up to now TITANIC II :wink: .

Good conspiracy theories are hard to come by...
This one sounds more plausible than most, up to the point of the Titanic's (uniquely) enclosed promenade, to be seen resting on the bottom of the ocean!
But more interestingly... why did they make the narrator CGI??

Conspiracy...

...and I suspect that your really thought that Man had landed on the Moon in 1969, Ian!... ...!

I don't believe in anything, any more... ....!

You can fool most of the people....most of the time.... ...!

Paul.... ....!

Charl wrote:Good conspiracy theories are hard to come by...
This one sounds more plausible than most, up to the point of the Titanic's (uniquely) enclosed promenade, to be seen resting on the bottom of the ocean!
But more interestingly... why did they make the narrator CGI??

I got the book back this morning, I shows the Olympic in its black painted hull now with only 14 portholes, one primary mentioned was also the longitudinal beam in the wreck, this is a Goodie.

Fozzer wrote:...and I suspect that your really thought that Man had landed on the Moon in 1969, Ian!... ...!

Well in an actual fact I do believe Neil and Buzz and the others walked on the moon, I also met Buzz in Wanaka, one person who is a specialist in that subject is Nick, he really has researched this , but I have never had any doubt.

Here is the Olympic circa late 1912 entering Southhampton now wear its black hull paint but sporting 14 portholes, .... if you also notice the hull off the Titanic with the four fitting-out look how weather beaten and dirty is, for a brand new ship ... one has to remember coaling a ship it a very dirty task hence the reason they paint the hull black to hide the coal dust.

On further reading the Olympic in Summer 1912, went in for another major refit which took six months to complete, more life boats added and further internal fittings, Still Very very Plausible considering time attitude of people, the very Victorian pompous attitude and the time of the period , we can't prove it but it makes for a huge 'possible conspiracy', they do it today to hide many things, or least not straight about answers, those days it would have been very easy to get away with as long as you had the money and connections.

Truth sure can be stranger than fiction... do yourself a favour and Google JP Morgan Jr.
Apart from funding the First World War ( seriously - he had sole supply of armament for Britain and France! When their money ran out he arranged a loan and took 1% of the lot as commission) he was a shareholder of White Star Line.
I'd believe almost any conspiracy about him.

Charl wrote:Truth sure can be stranger than fiction... do yourself a favour and Google JP Morgan Jr.
Apart from funding the First World War ( seriously - he had sole supply of armament for Britain and France! When their money ran out he arranged a loan and took 1% of the lot as commission) he was a shareholder of White Star Line.
I'd believe almost any conspiracy about him.

I'll check him out , again it was the era were the Rich were the better class , I was checking up on the judge at the court of inquiry and his other crony's... I love to get my hands on the radio details.

I never thought off something like this yet the details were in the three book showing the changes ... other point I picked on was the Titanic name also changed colour from the time off launch to the fitting out basin .. launch to first voyage its a gold colour .. fitting out it looks a rusty red.

One come to me yesterday, I told him of the find, the conspiracy theory, he works on cargo/container ships, I asked was this possible, forget the name changing and shape and design build and portholes, Gerard, said you can spot an iceberg at night even fogged in with a good moon! he said "at night they shine like diamonds" one thing pointed out and we had to have a chuckle .... who the hell was driving , the turn radius and distance , he said a lot of people have talked about this over the years but has been white washed out.

Before subject change to what I was doing, Gerald did say a good example was the 'Rena' on the reef and how companies hide the truth and today because of the media is to hard to hide the specifics, them said even the shipping lines today are very corrupt, P&O apparently one off the worst, all the details show it was he said it was deliberate, but it is history and well gone and done.

Another ship worked was the Steamer 'Holmdale' of the 'Canterbury Steam Shipping Company' mention there was many not sure, the ship was sold to another company and for insurance purpose say the cargo shifted in heavy seas to Norfolk Island ....

Ian Warren wrote:

Fozzer wrote:...and I suspect that your really thought that Man had landed on the Moon in 1969, Ian!... ...!

Well in an actual fact I do believe Neil and Buzz and the others walked on the moon, I also met Buzz in Wanaka, one person who is a specialist in that subject is Nick, he really has researched this , but I have never had any doubt.

They did. Simple. In 45 years nobody in the aerospace industry has voiced any doubts. Only incompetent amateurs...