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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:51 pm
by benwynn
So who here is getting the 2nd Gen iPhone 3G, coming July 11??

I probably wont due to cost, and I already have a 1st Generation model- I dont use data that much so no bother to me.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:23 pm
by Ian Warren
I'm not tongue.gif .. running around a work site with the COMUNERCATOR biggrin.gif .. not sure whether bout to kill convo .... or button to push unsure.gif .. iPhone .. is that a IanPhone targeting the non user laugh.gif but real unsure.gif .... unsure.gif laugh.gif .... unsure.gif laugh.gif ...... smile.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:43 am
by benwynn
Personally Ian, I dont think I can see many people over 40 getting them. My dad, who is well over 50, struggles to use his nokia, with half the features tongue.gif

Im sure they could customise it for you special needs Ian, then we can just rebrand it and sell as the IanPhone! smile.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:29 pm
by Ian Warren
Brother Rick , year lesser than me , has his cell phone , contractor of course - comes here to my place and swears and curses ... bloody computers... always brakin down , laugh.gif thats him ... technology not him unless a combat sim running .. then hes DANGERUS thats his spell and forgets hes on a PC tongue.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:57 pm
by toprob
benwynn wrote:
QUOTE (benwynn @ Jun 30 2008, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally Ian, I dont think I can see many people over 40 getting them. My dad, who is well over 50, struggles to use his nokia, with half the features :P


Yes, 'i' products tend to appeal to younger folk because they have a 'cool' factor, but over 40s have been around long enough to know that paying a premium for cool is a bit like paying for air:)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:15 pm
by benwynn
Id tend to agree there rob, even though I am one of them tongue.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:20 pm
by HardCorePawn
what??? unsure.gif you mean you can get air for free?? blink.gif huh.gif

dry.gif


But seriously, and I know this statement is going to make me officially old (oi! you! get off my lawn!)... it really pains me to watch the younger folk with their designer (read: $150) jeans... and their designer (read: $250) sunglasses... and their designer (read: $80) t-shirts (who pays $80 for a T-SHIRT?!?! blink.gif)... and i'm left thinking... WHY? huh.gif

But, then... I never was the coolest, hippest kid in class...

Still, I guess they look at me spending $150-$200+/hour to whiz around the skies and think... WHY? I'm sure my wife does dry.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:03 pm
by brownbox
i think i will keep my n95 8gb thanks smile.gif No matter how hard i try, i just cant make the iphone worth it in my head....

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:05 pm
by benwynn
Well if you have an N95 thats OK tongue.gif , I upgraded from a Nokia 3100 smile.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:26 pm
by Ian Warren
HardCorePawn wrote:
QUOTE (HardCorePawn @ Jun 30 2008, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But, then... I never was the coolest, hippest kid in class...

Still, I guess they look at me spending $150-$200+/hour to whiz around the skies and think... WHY? I'm sure my wife does dry.gif

HCP .. me I was just dudling at school and to be cool , doodle more , ....... unsure.gif Idea .. smile.gif throw your wife onto the F/sim .. make sure it s your best most realistic FS aircraft .. most real photo scenery , be NZReal of course smile.gif ... then try messers at low level in real world weather ( rain and cloudy ) biggrin.gif oh .. only 10 minutes .. BEHIND YOUR BACK ? YOU HAVE A OLD AIRLINE AIRSICK BAG FOR HER drool.gif COS ITS SO BRILLIANT ITS ALMOST REAL - she'd be gettin giddy AND thats when the BAG COMES IN HANDY .. you can now spend some money for yourself and flightsim laugh.gif ...... tru tho unsure.gif or not

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:29 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
Yeah spending money for Apple gear is pretty stupid. I was looking for an AV cable for my Ipod- an Apple one is $60, I just bought a no-name one for $4...

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:03 pm
by ardypilot
Yeah I'm not a big fan of Apple products- strictly a PC guy, with a Sony Ericsson Walkman cellphone.

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COS ITS SO BRILLIANT ITS ALMOST REAL - she'd be gettin giddy AND thats when the BAG COMES IN HANDY[/quote]
Haha, my Mum said something simular when I tried showing her FS once... I think I was flying a Pitts Special at the time winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:44 pm
by deeknow
brownbox wrote:
QUOTE (brownbox @ Jun 30 2008, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i think i will keep my n95 8gb thanks smile.gif No matter how hard i try, i just cant make the iphone worth it in my head....


Yep, I'm stoked with my N95 too. In fact, just bought a new Wireless router for home and finally hooked the N95 up to the web tonight, sure it hasn't got the screen real-estate of the iPhone but its doable.

Never quite got the whole Mac religious thing, I guess I just get sick of hearing Mac-ophiles bleating on about how great they are. winkyy.gif

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:44 am
by benwynn
You cant really say that Deeknow, have you ever used a Mac? Im 99% sure your opinion of them would change, for the better or the worse.

Strictly a PC Guy ay Andrew? Fair Enough, But I have 2 fortunently. My PC for Flight Sim, and my MacBook for everything else smile.gif

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:36 am
by Daniel
Nope, I won't be. Don't have the money at the moment anyway.
With Apple you pay for the brand. Tom brought up a good point about the price for Apple branded cords etc.
I don't have any Apple branded thing at the moment.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:51 pm
by Anthony
I won't be buying an iPhone because I'm happy with current phone and it's on the wrong network anyway (Telecom for the win and the lose).
Plus I have a lot of other things I want to buy and the amount I have now doesn't quite stretch to cover those things let alone an iPhone.

As a Mac user, but not a religiously nutty one, I figure I may as well say something about it.
Daniel is correct - with Apple you pay a lot for the brand. The other things you pay for are the user interface, simplicity, etc but a lot of it is the brand.
Is it worth it? To some it is.

Apple's prices are a rip in many ways - especially for 'accessories' like cords and extra RAM.

Disclaimer: At the moment I own a MacBook and an iPod from Apple. I also own two Windows computers plus the family computer which is also Windows.
My mum, as a teacher, has a school laptop which is also Windows. I think it's safe to say that I'm fairly platform agnostic.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:49 pm
by toprob
Way back when I started the copy centre, we used a Mac as a print server, but did most of the work on a PC. The Mac cost about $30,000, the PC was $5,000. (Although the Mac had 512MB of RAM, whereas the PC only had 128...) I guess it was a matter of taste -- the Mac had PhotoShop installed (which I only used for scanning), and I suppose I could have got to love the Mac, but it really seemed clunky to me. I guess things have changed now, but I preferred the freedom of Windows' windows, if you'll excuse the expression.

But the main reason for setting up the print bureau part was a direct reaction to the Mac-centric digital print market. It was almost impossible to get a PC file printed here in Christchurch, and most bureaus had an attitude which I always took to be snobbery. Now I know that they just didn't really have a clue about PCs, because Apple did all the necessary training for the Mac, supplied all the software for free, and it wasn't that easy to get the same support for PCs.

One day when I'm rich I want a huge wide white Mac screen on a little table when I walk inside, to check my messages....

But I do understand the power of peer pressure. My ex-wife (the first one, not the second...) would only want an Ipod, because that's what all her friends had -- it wouldn't matter if you could get a nice MP3 player for cheap -- you just couldn't explain the difference to her.

My kids are a bit more sensible, but that's mainly because of the un-green reputation of Apple.

The same thing applies to game consoles -- younger folk want a Playstation 3, because then they belong to a 'club', but if you do the normal consumer research, there's no way a PS3 would be a suitable choice, unless money was no object.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:05 pm
by victor_alpha_charlie
toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Jul 1 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same thing applies to game consoles -- younger folk want a Playstation 3, because then they belong to a 'club', but if you do the normal consumer research, there's no way a PS3 would be a suitable choice, unless money was no object.


I would buy a PS3 because the game I would buy a new console for (Gran Turismo 5) is only on PS3 winkyy.gif

I do have a 30gb Ipod Video, but because it best suited my needs. I would've got a Microsoft Zune but they're expensive for their capacity. I'm probably going to upgrade soon because I can't fit enough movies on my Ipod.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:08 pm
by Anthony
Speaking of the Zune, I'm not aware of it being available in New Zealand. I'm pretty sure MS only released it to US and then Canada or something.
Of course I could be wrong.

Not really a fan of the Zune myself, and I think you'd become the laughing stock of the internet, or rather your Zune would. pirate.gif

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:13 pm
by benwynn
Reason Being for my iPhone purchase.

Needed a new phone, could get one for a good price, didnt have ipod/mp3 player at the time..Not JUST because its an iPhone.

I am the exact oposite Tom, I really want to get the new GTA- But Ive never had a gaming console, and I probably never will sad.gif (Fortunently it will come out on pc I hope smile.gif )

How many Flight Simmers world wide would have upgraded/bought new computers for FSX. I know I certainly didnt.. tongue.gif