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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:19 pm
by Splitpin
Been tweaking FSX....Ive got the Herc working ok (sliders down...hence no ground shots) Still not sure about the B-52 dry.gif
And i love the tail view from the T6. The RAF Herc, for some reason, is great for screenshots......looks very real.












and the A/S Tornado





Have a safe long weekend team


Marty

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:53 pm
by Ian Warren
Love the Harvard , both the screenie and the real , Canopy open , Canopy close , Canopy open , Canopy close , Canopy open , Canopy close , sorta a private joke ripping around in the SAAF jobbie Feb couple years back rolleyes.gif

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:14 pm
by Adamski
Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jun 5 2010, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Been tweaking FSX....Ive got the Herc working ok (sliders down...hence no ground shots) Still not sure about the B-52 dry.gif

Looks like your tweaking is paying off. Again, that top BUFF shot looks photo-real!

Undecided as to whether I'll buy it myself - though I'm a real CS fanboi. I'm still not sure about the point of having military aircraft in FSX. That said, I love the Tornado - not sure why (it just looks the part) - so I may make an exception for that!

There used to be a tremendous Tornado sim (Digital Integration) that had the best mission/campaign editor ever. Every combat simmer remembers it with awe - it's never been bettered, even now.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:13 pm
by Ian Warren
Adam , the 52 would have to be the most Famous Bomber after WWII .. only for its years and track record , most the hulls are 50 an still on the front line ! Oh boy Boeing cool.gif

PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:44 pm
by Splitpin
Thanks Adam, and Ian.
Adam, Im a bit undecided about the B-52....makes nice screenshots, but i cant think of anything i could do with it. The herc is just great, i love all the mods and variants.

I think the c/s stuff really is at the top of the list.....like you , Ive got most of their stuff, but mainly for FS9. will have to save and do the upgrade....then get their FSX items.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:47 pm
by markll
Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jun 5 2010, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm still not sure about the point of having military aircraft in FSX.


You haven't flown the VRS Superbug then? Thats all the reason you need!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:47 am
by Adamski
markll wrote:
QUOTE (markll @ Jun 6 2010, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You haven't flown the VRS Superbug then? Thats all the reason you need!

Aaah ... but you can't dogfight (shoot things down), can't blow stuff up, don't need to avoid SAM missiles, dodge flak, try to break radar lock ... then get home (on fumes) with a crippled aircraft! ... winkyy.gif

The problem is that I came to MSFS a long time after having "cut my teeth" on just about every combat sim that's been released. In many instances (notably Su-27 Flanker) flying head to head with real military pilots - who claimed the sim was realistic enough to practise real combat manoeuvres. Needless to say, they were unbeatable sad.gif

My last few online outings were with the Kiwisim boys - with IL-2 - and it was incredibly immersive: hard but full of adrenalin fun. I just don't find stooging around "looking pretty" in a mean military machine that rewarding ... unless it's a Spit, that is laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

However - navigation, ATC procedures all that civil aviation stuff is done so well in MSFS. I get a real kick out of planning a flight - calculating the load-out, flying within safe limits and arriving on time (in all weather!). At least I *usually* get to land the aircraft!

Oddly, the price of a decent combat sim these days is a fraction of what you pay for MSFS + add-ons - and you get a proper handful of accurately modelled aircraft, better flight models, better avionics, better weaponry, online combat, campaigns etc. etc.

I hedge my bets and play *both*!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:24 am
by Splitpin
Mark...your right i haven't (yet) seen the Hornet...all reports read well..........maybe soon

Adam , years ago i had a couple of those 'Janes" combat sims.....US Navy fighters i think....spent hours doing exactly what you decribe in your post....then Flanker (which was great for its time)
Do you know if there is a Vietnam era fighter sims around....that period really interests me....but not the bombers ie B-52.

Anyway....heres a couple of screens of the default Dak....dont see many shots of the default aircraft, some of which aint half bad .
Isnt that Dak just crying out for a MtCook paint job..........








Cheers

Marty

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:03 am
by Adamski
Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jun 7 2010, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you know if there is a Vietnam era fighter sims around....that period really interests me....but not the bombers ie B-52.

There *was* one ... "Flight of the Intruder" ... but that was 1,000 years ago ;-)

Someone may have written a Vietnam campaign for Falcon4:

http://sites.google.com/site/falcon40files/falcon4.0files
http://www.falcon4.net/theaters/PMC_Vietnam_Theater_v0.9.rar

I must have done the default Korea campaign about 30 times!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:23 am
by markll
Adamski wrote:
QUOTE (Adamski @ Jun 7 2010, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aaah ... but you can't dogfight (shoot things down), can't blow stuff up, don't need to avoid SAM missiles, dodge flak, try to break radar lock ... then get home (on fumes) with a crippled aircraft! ... winkyy.gif

The problem is that I came to MSFS a long time after having "cut my teeth" on just about every combat sim that's been released. In many instances (notably Su-27 Flanker) flying head to head with real military pilots - who claimed the sim was realistic enough to practise real combat manoeuvres. Needless to say, they were unbeatable sad.gif

My last few online outings were with the Kiwisim boys - with IL-2 - and it was incredibly immersive: hard but full of adrenalin fun. I just don't find stooging around "looking pretty" in a mean military machine that rewarding ... unless it's a Spit, that is laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

However - navigation, ATC procedures all that civil aviation stuff is done so well in MSFS. I get a real kick out of planning a flight - calculating the load-out, flying within safe limits and arriving on time (in all weather!). At least I *usually* get to land the aircraft!

Oddly, the price of a decent combat sim these days is a fraction of what you pay for MSFS + add-ons - and you get a proper handful of accurately modelled aircraft, better flight models, better avionics, better weaponry, online combat, campaigns etc. etc.

I hedge my bets and play *both*!


Mate, agree with all you say. But the VRS SuperBug does give you some of the combat elements....sure it doesn't do damage modelling, etc, etc, etc, but chack this out:



And a gratuitous go-fast shot for good measure (hey, its a Super Hornet, so why not? smile.gif )


PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:45 am
by Splitpin
Mark.....looks great....first time Ive seen a shockwave in a sim ohmy.gif may have to price tat one up winkyy.gif ....nice screens.

Adam....my god...i forgot about flight of the intruder!! ....it was 1500 years ago, i think i first saw it on a "green screen" computer. Do you remember one called Lancaster?...it came out for the old commodore 64.....jeez, we cant be that old sad.gif Thanks for the links. thumbup1.gif

Cheers Guys....stay warm....its almost snowing down here....total IFR.....

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:39 pm
by markll
Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jun 7 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mark.....looks great....first time Ive seen a shockwave in a sim ohmy.gif may have to price tat one up winkyy.gif ....nice screens.


Its expensive for an addon - worked out at nearly $75 bucks...maybe thats why I'm talking it up - trying to convince MYSELF that it was worth it too!! sad.gif

Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jun 7 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Adam....my god...i forgot about flight of the intruder!! ....it was 1500 years ago, i think i first saw it on a "green screen" computer. Do you remember one called Lancaster?...it came out for the old commodore 64.....jeez, we cant be that old sad.gif Thanks for the links. thumbup1.gif


Lancaster? Not "Dambusters" ?? I always wanted that but never did get it - I was a Gunship man....that and F19 Stealth Fighter...

Splitpin wrote:
QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jun 7 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cheers Guys....stay warm....its almost snowing down here....total IFR.....


Damn, really!?!?!?? Its windy but fine up here on the Kapiti Coast - would be 15 degress or so at the moment - not too bad for June... smile.gif