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I just got my hands on the new Carenado Hawker 850XP and my god is it beautiful! I found it in it's natural habitat: Miami







Video featuring this bird (partially in NZ) is coming soon!

OH CRIKEY ! Now this is going to be my 1ST Carenado buy Thanks for the HU and superb screens Roel

Nice shots! I think I'll hold off for further reviews, and for the heavy twin pistons coming from both Carenado and Alabeo.

Also, to be realistic in Miami, that interior shot would likely be absolutely covered in certain controlled substances... ha!

SeanTK wrote:Nice shots! I think I'll hold off for further reviews, and for the heavy twin pistons coming from both Carenado and Alabeo.

At $50US .. I'll hold off for a sale , or maybe win a screen shot competition , I'm no bloody good at those , strange I do read a lot mentioning frame rate issues, that is not like Carenado is it ?

Ian Warren wrote:At $50US .. I'll hold off for a sale , or maybe win a screen shot competition , I'm no bloody good at those , strange I do read a lot mentioning frame rate issues, that is not like Carenado is it ?

Carenado's with glass cockpits are known to have some framerate issues. Especially those equipped with the G1000. This one performs quite well, I get around 35fps in the VC and more than 60 outside, and that is with that Miami scenery. With something like Godzone those numbers should be even higher. That's in P3D on very high settings, but then again, I overclocked my 4770k to 4.6Ghz + rocking a GTX780, so I don't know how it performs on lower end systems. There are still some bugs to solve, but in this day and age, every aircraft needs an update quite soon after release.

Well I guess if the PMDG NGX works fine here the Hawkers Youngest would as well , guess now just the cost.

Indeed Ian, if you can run the NGX decently, than this one shouldn't be a problem at all! And I too find the price a bit too high, I mean, for the same money you can have the Majestic Q400 or Airbus X. And those are very, very detailed aircraft. I think this one should be around 35USD to be honest.

Looks great but...Carenado...No thx.

I was looking forward to this one but I will hold off for a while and see how they respond to addressing some of the issues.

Certainly LOOKS good, and thanks for sharing the pics, but it's certainly getting a hammering in the forums re glitches and operating details huh.

Do wonder if the level of critique is just much higher these days than it used to be, with the stuff coming out from the likes of PMDG these days its kind of "a rising tide lifts all boats" scenario isnt it as far as expectations go.

deeknow wrote:Do wonder if the level of critique is just much higher these days than it used to be, with the stuff coming out from the likes of PMDG these days its kind of "a rising tide lifts all boats" scenario isnt it as far as expectations go.

I guess that if you're paying that sort of price the expectations would be a lot higher. I know that I am fairly unlikely to buy at $50US unless it's one that I have an affinity for - around $30 and I will sometimes purchase just for the experience - and at the price I do have lower expectations.

Roelio wrote:Indeed Ian, if you can run the NGX decently, than this one shouldn't be a problem at all! And I too find the price a bit too high, I mean, for the same money you can have the Majestic Q400 or Airbus X. And those are very, very detailed aircraft. I think this one should be around 35USD to be honest.

Yeah that $50US brings it up to nearly $66NZ and with what is mentioned on the forums , definitely wait a whiles .. may not be my 1ST Carenado

I've read the forum on AVsim and I gotta say that there are a lot of people just bashing Carenado there and most of them didn't even tried it yet. And I've seen a lot of people complaining about the lack of an autothrottle, FLC not working, FMC too basic and buggy and that it's underpowered. Well the Hawker doesn't have an autothrottle irl, so naturally they didn't put it in, the FLC is working but it's strange, the FMC is fine for routeplanning but don't expect NGX depth out of it, the aircraft isn't really that powerful, the red line starts at mach 0.8 and it's climbingspeed isn't really high too. Do I think it's worth 50USD/66NZD it in it's current form? Well no. Is it a fun airplane to fly? Definitely yes! And it's a stunner to look at, so for now I would hold off purchases until Carenado releases a servicepack for it. But if everything is fixed and works like it's supposed to, you won't regret the purchase. I'm sure of it!

One thing with me Roel , I love the .. early variant to this version just something about the type .. not sure we have a 800 in the NZ but pleased you posted , I'll .. We will keeping an eyeball on this one

Who cares about bugs ..... any one who can produce simulated walnut like that is worth a shot (screen)
Great post Roelio