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I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 7:20 pm
by Splitpin
This maybe old hat to some of you, but I've been learning about the 98% of Photoshop that I've never used... in fact, its more like 1% , of the 98%.
Anyway, I'll show you these shots ...warts and all.

An enhancement of an earlier shot I showed you.... I got the aircraft closer together...perspective is ...so so , the back aircraft looks a little bigger than the one in the foreground ...work to do there.

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This is a bit dark ...again, the perspective is in question ...but it worked ...sort of :)

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The following is real learning stuff .... from 2 totally different sims (P3D and Cold waters). Extremely hard to merge the two ...if at all.... the aircraft look "stuck on"

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If you work , or are familiar with this field and can add some advise , please do.
In the meantime I will keep studying .

Thanks for looking.

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:01 pm
by Charl
Fun stuff, almost there...
Between sims would be really hard to do, because the light source is going to be different.
The eye picks that up quickly.
Pasting multiple aircraft from the same sim I used to do by setting a tower view really high up and saving the flight in slew mode.
You'd remove all weather or set uniform overcast so the planes cut out cleanly.
You'd then change planes, and slew successively, so the perspective remains the same.
Final shot is the background with the weather you like, taken in the same direction and time of day.
You'd then overlay the aircraft frames, having made their backgrounds transparent.

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:45 pm
by Splitpin
Charl.... "Pasting multiple aircraft from the same sim I used to do by setting a tower view really high up and saving the flight in slew mode.
You'd remove all weather or set uniform overcast so the planes cut out cleanly.
You'd then change planes, and slew successively, so the perspective remains the same.
Final shot is the background with the weather you like, taken in the same direction and time of day.
You'd then overlay the aircraft frames, having made their backgrounds transparent."

Exactly what I wanted to hear/see :bow: .... thank you , more work to do. :)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:52 pm
by Adamski
That last P-3 shot fooled me! It wasn't until I read the blurb that I realised it was a montage. I was going to ask you how you got your water to look like that!!! :lol:

Looks like a nice project (or candidate) for May's "Naval" screencomp! ^_^

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:12 pm
by Splitpin
Adamski wrote:That last P-3 shot fooled me! It wasn't until I read the blurb that I realised it was a montage. I was going to ask you how you got your water to look like that!!! :lol:

Looks like a nice project (or candidate) for May's "Naval" screencomp! ^_^


Thanks Adam ...."Naval" hmm B-)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 9:46 pm
by emfrat
:D Marty, can you do it with one hand ? That's all I will have available for the next six weeks at least, thanks to a lacerated tendon in my left hand...it is the one that raises the middle finger which is a damn nuisance because I can no longer offer helpful advice to errant motorists. Actually I am not even supposed to drive for the six weeks either :arrr:

Mike

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:52 am
by Bugdani
It seems that the May's "Naval" screencomp will be a real challenge :D

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:21 pm
by Charl
I meant to say, amongst all that verbiage, that the azimuth view angle must be the same throughout, otherwise the eye will pick it up.
So if you want to look down onto the sea, your plane shots would have to be at sufficient altitude that you can create a uniform cloud below, for the same viewing angle.
If you get my drift... anyway look forward to the fruits of your experiments.

Mike: The Italian driver of an Alfa Guilietta was asked:
You say "With one hand on my girlfriend, the other hand out the window for the Finger, I drive faster than anyone!"
How then, do you steer??
To which he replied (and you do this in heavy Italian accent): "In Italy... we hava REAL men!" :)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 8:56 pm
by emfrat
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 9:12 pm
by Splitpin
Thanks Charl , and Mike I hope the digit recovers ... :)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:43 pm
by Splitpin
Dani ... at this stage no orion.

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:59 pm
by Bugdani
Yes, I'm very surprised :o :D

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 8:39 pm
by Splitpin
Dani , I changed my mind <_< entry has changed .

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 2:39 am
by Bugdani
Splitpin wrote:Dani , I changed my mind <_< entry has changed .

Well done marty! Catalina was also very nice with wonderful clouds.
Do not know my favourite :huh:

I'm happy with my chopper, so I keep it B-)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:05 am
by Charl
Remember, you asked... :)
The other thing that will bother the eye is out-of-scale relative perspective.
So if you are 500m above the sea in your final shot, then the aircraft must be (quite a bit) less than 500m from you in the aircraft cutout shot.
If you paste in an aircraft that was 2000m away, the eye will think it is a little aircraft pasted in!
It's all about the angle subtended at the eye. <)

Re: I love the learning curve.

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:48 am
by Splitpin
I did indeed ask Charl .... and your right.
I'm rushing things for some reason ..... more planning required.
The separate Sim thing is throwing it out , but this is good, keeps the mind working.

100 % appreciate your input .... thank you sir ☺