Odd birds

[Splitpin]

Bugger ... now I've forgotten what they are

[hasegawa]

First is Yak 23,
Second Yak 17
You can see it because the Yak 17 has is weapons at the top of the hull
The Yak 23 has its weapons at the bottom of the hull

The Yak 23 is the end of the Line Yak 15/17/23
In reality it was a modified Yak 3 with jet engines. It was an aircraft to give soviet pilots the first experience in Jet flying in a more or less familiar looking aircraft.
Rules to fly a Yak 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSfmMYsztAw
Note: this aircraft has Tail wheel landing gear, source of many problems. Yak 17 and 23 has tricycle landing gear.
All of them have the RD-10-engine, a copy of the Junkers Jumo 004, known from the Messerschmitt Me 262.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-17

No. 3 is
MiG 9, the first Jet from Mikoyan and Gurevich.
It was a design like the Lockheed F-80, but a bit later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-9

No 4 is
the Last, not shure. Think it is the Lavochkin La 200 all-weather-interceptor.
It was never built in serial production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavochkin_La-200

Interesting the Yak 3 (or 9?) left and the Petljakow Pe 2 on the right side in the background...

[Splitpin]

Danke, mein guter Herr du bist erstaunlich .

[hasegawa]

Thanks for the kind words. I have just retired with age 54... because of due to health problems. I'm glad to be able to do something useful...

[Splitpin]

Sie werden immer nützlich sein Take care, and don't stop posting ...we need to keep this place alive ...Danke noch einmal.

[hasegawa]

To build odd planes, it was not a privilege of the Russians:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzr9f-rkjnw

[chopper_nut]

Hmm, interesting. I don't think that the criticism of the Scimitar and the Sea Vixen is entirely fair. They were on the cutting edge at the time and operating off the smaller British carriers. British politics played as much of a part in the success or lack of success as the aircraft designs did.

[Adamski]

Hmm, interesting. I don't think that the criticism of the Scimitar and the Sea Vixen is entirely fair.

... and they were both beautiful looking aircraft!

Great pics, Marty - of some classic aircraft!

[chopper_nut]

The Scimitar and Sea Vixen are still very pretty aeroplanes. Reading an interview on the Scimitar, the fella who flew it on operations, reckoned it was a great aeroplane. He noted the thick wing didn’t behave well in high AoA turns and of course prevented the aircraft from going supersonic. He did say though that it accelerated well and was rugged. Reading the accident listing for Scimitars and Sea Vixens, yes a lot were lost in flying accidents but naval aviation was dangerous, still is. In fact, that video annoyed me a little. The Beverly was actually loved by it’s crews. Not particularly fair to compare it directly to the Herc.

[Splitpin]

Thanks for looking guys ...and I do agree with the comments on the Brit aircraft.
I love ALL those late 40's through late 60's British aircraft ....the sheer pace of development was amazing on its own.
Nick, I agree with you on the Beverly ...wonderful aircraft as was the Belfast later on.

Most of the comments on that video pretty much sum it up ..... c r a p , he , they ..whatever included the Tornado ? ...w t f.

I can't hear what the commentary is ...if there is one, my puter is mute at the moment.

[chopper_nut]

The commentary was a bit bizarre really. You didn't miss much. The criticism of the Tornado F2 was justified in a way though. The F2 was pretty awful as was the F3 until they sorted the radar out. The aircraft was optimized for the low level role but the crews learned to use the aircraft's strengths to get the most out of it. In the end the F3 actually became a very good aeroplane but it took a long time to get there. The Javelin, the Roc, the Firebrand..... yeah they were pretty ordinary. Reading about Gloster's chief test pilot Bill Waterton and the Javelin. Gloster were forcing him to sign off on an aircraft that was actually dangerous and suffered from flutter that led to Waterton loosing the flying control surfaces on one....

[hasegawa]

Sorry, the material about british aircraft and the controversy about may be a failure and not to concentrate about Marty´s pictures...

[deeknow]

they certainly had some distinctive designs huh, cool shots

[Splitpin]

Sorry, the material about british aircraft and the controversy about may be a failure and not to concentrate about Marty´s pictures...

Dont worry ...it was taken well, and some of the points were valid.

[jankees]

wonderful shots of strange birds. Which sim is this?