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Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:29 pm
by Adamski
I held back on acquiring the MSFS Ju52 as I hate anything to do with Marketplace. Token resistance, though, as it wasn't too expensive - and it's such a *classic* aircraft after all.

I'm glad I caved in, as this is probably the best aircraft for MSFS I own. They really pulled out the stops on this one: the attention to detail is mind-boggling - and I dread to think how many man-hours went into it!!

Anyway ... here's a test flight - at ... guess where <?> LOL!

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Adam.

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:27 pm
by deaneb
I also bought this. I have gone down the VR path and this machine certainly does not disappoint. Incredible detail and a delight to fly.

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:32 pm
by Adamski
deaneb wrote:I also bought this. I have gone down the VR path and this machine certainly does not disappoint. Incredible detail and a delight to fly.

Yay! Another candidate for the Berlitz German language course!!!

I found a couple of YT tutorials for doing a cold start (without a dictionary!!) ... but they basically say follow the in-built checklist procedure and you'll be fine. I did ... and got there in the end - although it took me 1/2 an hour to do it :lol: ... now that's what I call nerdy!

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:30 am
by ikbenik
Great shots of this historic old lady 'Tante Ju' in my preferred NZ-landscape. It must be indeed a challenge to go from 'cold & dark' to 'ready for taxi' status.

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:58 am
by Aharon
Third screenshot is amazing. Is that waterfall in background that I see??

Regards,

Aharon

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 11:33 am
by Adamski
Aharon wrote:Third screenshot is amazing. Is that waterfall in background that I see??

Thanks! Unlike with the ORBX P3D version, the waterfall here in the freeware MSFS scenery doeen't animate. The airport itself is beautifully done, but it struggles with the immediate.surrounding area, with the steepness of the terrain and foliage. For free, though, it's really very good - and I'm very appreciative!

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:13 pm
by Splitpin
Adam ...suu..bloody ...perb :rockon:

Paint it in Mt Cook colours , or old NAC.

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:21 pm
by Adamski
Splitpin wrote:Adam ...suu..bloody ...perb :rockon:
Paint it in Mt Cook colours , or old NAC.

Now there's a thought!!! I wonder where the paint kit is?

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:00 am
by Aharon
Adamski wrote:
Aharon wrote: the waterfall here in the freeware MSFS scenery doeen't animate. T


I find it very strange considering the fact that Niagara and Victoria Falls as well as other falls do animate in FSX but not in MSFS. Very strange. Does your MS2020 (MSFS) have default animated Niagara and Victoria Falls??

I am going to check to see if the fall next to Milford Sound airport does animate in FSX.

Regards,

Aharon

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:51 am
by Adamski
Aharon wrote:
Adamski wrote:
Aharon wrote: the waterfall here in the freeware MSFS scenery doeen't animate. T


I find it very strange considering the fact that Niagara and Victoria Falls as well as other falls do animate in FSX but not in MSFS. Very strange. Does your MS2020 (MSFS) have default animated Niagara and Victoria Falls??

I am going to check to see if the fall next to Milford Sound airport does animate in FSX.


Nothing about MSFS would surprise me - it's such a patchwork of good and bad. I've not visited either of those two falls in MSFS (yet), but will take a look.

I doubt whether the Bowen Falls (as they are called) animate in FSX/default. I only know they most certainly do in P3D with the ORBX NZMF add-on, as there was a big discussion about whether it introduced a micro-pause when you reached the end of the runway on take-off (when the animation might have been pre-loading). I no longer have P3D on my system, but last time I ran it, the waterfaall (and ORBX/NZMFF) worked beautifully.

NZMF in MSFS is a freeware addon, so maybe animating a waterfall is too complicated (for a casual developer). What he *has* produced, though, is pretty damn' good nevertheless!

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:08 am
by Aharon
Adamski,

Thanks for interesting explanations and thanks for identification of the falls in Milford Sound airport. Hope your MS2020 has animated Niagara and Victoria falls.

Regards,

Aharon

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:50 pm
by Adamski
Hi Aharon,

Here's what my investigation revealed (!!):

Niagara - nice, but static:
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Incredibly (but maybe not entirely surprisingly) here's what you see for Victoria Falls:
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Adam.

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:15 am
by Aharon
Adam,

Thank you for such amazing screenshots and for sparing time from your busy schedule to check out Niagara Falls and Victoria Falls in your new MS2020. It is much appreciated.

I remember that in my FSX, Niagara Falls has animated waterfalls but have NOT yet seen or checked out Victoria Falls.

One question: what waypoint did you use to find Victoria Falls, please??

Meanwhile, I got to check out if FSX has animated waterfall action for Bowen Falls and Victoria Falls

By the way, for your interesting comparison, fun, and amusement, here is my screenshot of Niagara Falls with animated falls from FSX that you can compare to your Niagara Falls in your MS2020.

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Regards,

Aharon

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:42 am
by cowpatz
A brave choice of airfield for a maiden flight there Adam :)

Re: Going bonkers over a Junkers

PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:36 am
by Adamski
cowpatz wrote:A brave choice of airfield for a maiden flight there Adam :)

I cheated!! I'd already had a few flights in it - and realised they've got the flight model all wrong (no surprises there!!). It takes off like an An-2 - and floats off the runway after an incredibly short space of time. I never knew the Ju52 was a STOL aircraft :D :lol: ^_^

Aharon wrote:One question: what waypoint did you use to find Victoria Falls, please??

I used Google Earth (outside the sim) to locate the falls in RL, then an addon for MSFS that pops up a Google-earth style map (whilst in flight) that allows you to teleport to a location in the map. Unfortunately, saving flights and/or positions in MSFS is a little screwed, so I didn't even bother saving it. The SLEW window in P3D (and FSX, I think <??>) shows lat/long co-ordinates - but the MSFS one doesn't (another nice feature gone AWOL).

Aharon wrote:By the way, for your interesting comparison, fun, and amusement, here is my screenshot of Niagara Falls with animated falls from FSX that you can compare to your Niagara Falls in your MS2020.

Wow - that's quite a comparison!!! Quite a difference in the "eye-candy" department - but, for MSFS, slightly ruined by the immersion-killer of non-animating water. Seems weird that they can animate sea water so well (dependent on wheather conditions too) and yet ignore such major landmarks like the falls.

Adam.